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    Venezuela head outlines changes

    President Hugo Chavez has announced plans to change to Venezuela's constitution to allow him to stand for office indefinitely.

    Current rules limiting presidential terms mean Mr Chavez would have to step down when his term ends in 2012.

    His plans would also increase presidential control over Venezuela's municipalities and states.

    Mr Chavez has rejected criticism of the proposals, saying they would bring "new horizons for the new era".

    Some of the main changes include:

    * Removing term limits for the presidency, and extend the term of office from six years to seven

    * Bringing in a maximum six-hour working day

    * Increasing presidential control over the central bank

    * Strengthening state economic powers, allowing the government to control assets of private companies before a court grants an expropriation order.

    The president set out his plans in a speech to the National Assembly, which is expected to approve them within several months.

    The plan would then be put to a national referendum.

    President Chavez told the assembly his proposals only affected 10% of the constitution.

    'Great battle'

    Thousands of government supporters converged on Venezuela's National Assembly, carrying banners reading "Yes to the reform, on the path to 21st Century Socialism".

    Inside, Hugo Chavez began by paying tribute to Simon Bolivar - the man who fought for Venezuela's independence 200 years ago.

    He said Bolivar was the inspiration for his political dream.

    Mr Chavez has promised structural changes to get rid of corruption - something he described as a cancer, says the BBC's James Ingham in Caracas.

    He said now was the era of "people power" and not the power of the oligarchy - a word he uses to describe past governments.

    In a television interview prior to his address, the president said that he believed the "immense majority" of the people would back his plan, but predicted a "great battle" with the opposition.

    "The Venezuelan opposition, without exception, is ... aligned with the interests of the empire," he said, referring to the United States.

    Since being re-elected last year, the Venezuelan leader has stepped up a programme of nationalisation of sectors including energy and telecommunications.

    He pushed through a new constitution in 1999, shortly after he was first elected. Under it presidents are limited to serving two successive six year terms.

    He says the charter must be redrafted in order to steer Venezuela away from capitalism and build a socialist state.

    His opponents fear that Mr Chavez is seeking to become a lifelong leader and could abuse his power.

    But, in his speech to the National Assembly, the president said: "We know it is not like that. I doubt there is any country on this planet with a democracy more alive than the one we enjoy in Venezuela today."

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  • #2
    New Venezuelan Constitution, now with 10% more authoritarianism!
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
      New Venezuelan Constitution, now with 10% more authoritarianism!
      but 5% less fat!

      No trans fatty acids!

      High in healthful oil!
      "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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      • #4
        I thought I also read that he was also trying to limit terms of mayors and goveners so they couldn't in essense serve for life. What a hypocrite.

        From the Chicago tribune
        CARACAS, VENEAUELA - President Hugo Chavez will unveil a project Wednesday to revise the constitution that would allow him to be re-elected indefinitely, a move that would enhance his authority to accelerate a socialist-inspired transformation of Venezuelan society.

        The removal of term limits for Chavez -- the heart of his proposal -- is to be accompanied by measures preventing elected governors and mayors from staying in power indefinitely, according to versions of the project leaked in recent weeks.
        It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
        RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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        • #5
          But remember, kiddies: Chavez is good because Bush is bad.



          -Arrian
          grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

          The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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          • #6
            Things are going very well actually in Venezuela. The economy is booming despite lower oil production. Poverty continues to be reduced also. So why shouldn't he extend term limits?
            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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            • #7
              Because guys who make themselves Presidente for life are not doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. They're called dictators, and it usually doesn't work out so well, ya know? He's on that path.

              Mugabe was once thought of as a good leader. Look at Zimbabwe now. As he got older and more & more desperate to hold on to power, he ran the country right into the ground. The place is a disaster now.

              He may well have done some good things in Venezuela. Bravo. Also, the high price of oil has gotta be helping, which isn't something he can take credit for.

              -Arrian
              grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

              The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Kidicious
                Things are going very well actually in Venezuela. The economy is booming despite lower oil production. Poverty continues to be reduced also. So why shouldn't he extend term limits?
                The economy was doing well in the US during the 1980s despite the Cold War. So why shouldn't have Ronald Reagan extended term limits?

                Because guys who make themselves Presidente for life are not doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. They're called dictators, and it usually doesn't work out so well, ya know? He's on that path.


                You are trying to use logic on a member of the loony left, Arrian .
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • #9
                  Tastes Great! Less Filling!
                  "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                  • #10
                    You eat Venezuelans? JOOS

                    -Arrian
                    grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                    The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Arrian
                      Because guys who make themselves Presidente for life are not doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. They're called dictators, and it usually doesn't work out so well, ya know? He's on that path.
                      I don't pretend to know what is in his heart. My comment is on his measurable success managing the government and his policies.
                      Mugabe was once thought of as a good leader. Look at Zimbabwe now. As he got older and more & more desperate to hold on to power, he ran the country right into the ground. The place is a disaster now.
                      What do you think is going to happen to Venezuela is Chavez steps down? Disaster, I can assure you.

                      He may well have done some good things in Venezuela. Bravo. Also, the high price of oil has gotta be helping, which isn't something he can take credit for.

                      -Arrian
                      As I pointed out, it's the non-oil sectors that are driving the economy now. This is because of Chavez's planning. Yes, Bravo.
                      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                      - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                      • #12
                        "Chavez, is the,
                        One guy to reelect
                        When youre reelecting,
                        More than once....

                        Chavez, reforms,
                        do not fade,
                        even when your thirst is done

                        The most rewarding socialism
                        In this mans world
                        For revolutionaries who are
                        having fun

                        Chavez, is the
                        One guy to reelect
                        When youre reelecting,
                        More than ONCE"


                        Back to the ball game!
                        "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                          The economy was doing well in the US during the 1980s despite the Cold War. So why shouldn't have Ronald Reagan extended term limits?
                          He was mentally ill perhaps?
                          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Kidicious
                            Things are going very well actually in Venezuela. The economy is booming despite lower oil production. Poverty continues to be reduced also. So why shouldn't he extend term limits?
                            So it's absolutely inconceivable that someone with similar ideas as Chavez could run for office after his terms are up and continue running the country in the same way?
                            "The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
                            "you people who bash Bush have no appreciation for one of the great presidents in our history." - Ned
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                            • #15
                              It won't end well, Kid. It never does.

                              The thing is, he could ride off into the sunset like Cincinatus and be a hero of the Venezuelan poor. As you say, he's done some things. But he'll undo them (or be undone by other things, like oil prices) if he keeps power too long.

                              -Arrian
                              grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                              The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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