When your military service and patriotism counts for nothing . . . .

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Originally posted by Patroklos
His brother is a dumbass then. Why would you bury someone at a church not of their denomination? Or if they are not religious a church at all?

The brother sounds like a douche.

Actually, the brother sounds like the next of kin, who was trying to bury his brother the best way he knew how and expected his community of faith to support him in his efforts. (If I had died as a single man and left no will, my mother -- my next of kin -- would have turned to her church for the same service, for the same reasons -- in spite of the fact that I abandoned my Catholicism years ago).

The brother also sounds like someone who had a pretty firm grasp on the New Testament, particularly the parable of the Good Samaritan.

There are douches in this scenario, but the brother isn't one of them.

[dannubis]

Originally posted by Patroklos
The brother sounds like a douche.

Actually, that is a very douchy remark

[Patroklos]

best way he knew how and expected his community of faith to support him in his efforts.

Sounds like he expected his church to forgo their own beliefs to give him a warm fuzzy. You can disagree with their beliefs if you want, but if they did allow this to occur in their church they would be hypocrites.

Mega churches of this kind do not keep their views on homosexuality secret.

If I had died as a single man and left no will, my mother -- my next of kin -- would have turned to her church for the same service, for the same reasons -- in spite of the fact that I abandoned my Catholicism years ago

So you mother, knowing your an atheist, would bury you according to her beliefs vice your own? Sounds selfish, sort of like after death conversions. Very shady.

There are douches in this scenario, but the brother isn't one of them.

So if his brother was a member of the church of satin and the deceased was Catholic, would it be douchey to bury him according to the rights of the dark lord? Yes. There is no difference here.

[Kidlicious]

Re: When your military service and patriotism counts for nothing . . . .

Mine counts for nothin but I'm hetero

[Pekka]

YEah, of course they shouldn't change their homo hating ways. Just like the KKK, they shouldn't give up their beliefs.

Hell freezes over when fags are ought to be respected for the "things they've done for the country". HE WAS A ***!!!!! A FAAAAAG!!!!

[Zevico]

Not to mention that I seriously doubt Jesus Christ would call this a Christian church.

You have a direct line to him, I suppose?

[dannubis]

well, you can read all about what He thought to be right in a famous book...

I forgot the name but if you google it i am sure you will find something

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Patroklos


Sounds like he expected his church to forgo their own beliefs to give him a warm fuzzy. You can disagree with their beliefs if you want, but if they did allow this to occur in their church they would be hypocrites.

No, the guy just sinned just like everyone else. The church accepts sin, just not homosexuality.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Patroklos


Sounds like he expected his church to forgo their own beliefs to give him a warm fuzzy. You can disagree with their beliefs if you want, but if they did allow this to occur in their church they would be hypocrites.

Yep. No problem here.

Maybe we should get the government to force them to bury whomever asks (all in the name of equality of course).

[Proteus_MST]

Well, after all they wanted to bury him despite his homosexuality.
Only when they heard that his boyfriend survived they suddenly declined

IMHO thatßs even more strange than not wanting to bury him because he is gay.

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Kidicious
No, the guy just sinned just like everyone else. The church accepts sin, just not homosexuality.

Yeah. This has always bothered me. Christianity teaches that everybody is a sinner requiring repentance, but for some reason homosexuality is different from all the other sins.

Would a church refuse to bury someone if they did a background check and found out the person served time as a robber? a murderer?

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by aneeshm


Or unless he's a gentile or an infidel.

er. ehm, all these guys are gentiles, Aneeshm

You cant, AFAIK, get buried in a Jewish cemetary if youre a gentile. We generally dont do funerals in synagogues, so thats not an issue. Other than gentiles, and suicides (whom its hard to deter any other way) there is, as AFAIK, no limitation on burial based on sinfulness. (note, its possible to get over the suicide thing by the rabbi claiming it wasnt a suicide, it was really an accident. Reform, I think, says that if youre depressed its not really suicide either. Not sure of the C position on this)

[SlowwHand]

If you're not depressed it's not suicide?
Show me someone all giggly that commits suicide.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
If you're not depressed it's not suicide?
Show me someone all giggly that commits suicide.

I think you have it backward.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Show me someone all giggly that commits suicide.

well thats how loopholes work, slowwy.

He suicided, we cant bury him in holy ground.

Thats not fair!

Er, well, if he was depressed, than he was the victim of an illness, he didnt really commit the sin of suicide.

Well of course he was depressed!

Good, then we CAN bury him in holy ground.