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  • #16
    So that doesn't change why I changed it.
    Mere details , but I stand corrected.
    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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    • #17
      In fact another clue is when you drink 'the blood of Christ' in church in the form of wine - those blood/alcohol levels must be off the scale!
      Exactly.

      See, God does love me and wants me to be happy.
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      • #18
        Yes it does. Because of your absurd vendetta against Asher nobody knows which son of Jacob we're talking about...

        Are you really prepared to go to these childish lengths for the sake of not seeing his name on the OT?
        Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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        • #19
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
            Read the whole Old Testament. Yahweh spends half his time telling the Jews they're the most special people in the whole wide world and he just love them to bits -- and the other half telling them what worthless disappoints they are, and punishing them severly for it. And its nearly impossible to tell when he's going to be loving God, and when he's going to be angry, violent God.

            Thats the point - to be chosen to be a kingdom of priests, to be chosen to have a special relationship with G-d. You guys are looking for a "fair" relationship to G-d, that of a ruler to citizens, or a parent over children. Some traditional Jews might say that that makes sense, since that is the relationship YOU were meant to have. Our relationship is different. Its more intimate, more passionate, more unpredictable, more fraught with all kinds of emotions. Its more like a relationship with a lover. Peaks of hope and joy, to depths of disappointment and dispair.


            Harold Bloom, otoh, the literary critic, sees the unpredictability of G-d, His "uncanniness" as Bloom calls it, as a residual of an earlier text, the "J" text, which is said to be the earliest source text for the Hebrew bible. The God of "J" is a different figure from the calm but judgemental G-d of "E". The God of J has an intimate, passionate uncanny relationship to the world. IIUC, Bloom relates this to Gnosticism.
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            • #21
              You are so damn ann-ying.

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              • #22
                In other words, God is a loon...
                Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                • #23
                  Re: Let's talk about Asher

                  Originally posted by MOBIUS
                  So basically God told them to invade and steal the land of other peoples,
                  Discuss.
                  If you believe in God, what land does not belong to God? To assign as he sees fit.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by MOBIUS
                    In other words, God is a loon...
                    still not interested in talking about the tribe of asher, are you?
                    "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Wiglaf
                      You are so damn ann-ying.
                      At least I post things other than snarks.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by lord of the mark


                        If you believe in God, what land does not belong to God? To assign as he sees fit.
                        Every so often, your mantle of respectability slips to reveal the true character underneath...
                        Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by lord of the mark


                          still not interested in talking about the tribe of one of the sons of jacob, are you?
                          They realised he was a loon and didn't carry out his wishes...

                          Understanding that God is a loon is central to their plight.
                          Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                          • #28
                            Re: Re: Let's talk about Asher

                            Originally posted by lord of the mark
                            If you believe in God, what land does not belong to God? To assign as he sees fit.
                            Seeing as God is evidently a somewhat subjective entity (though each believer / believer-group claims unswerving certainty and objectivity) the interpretation of the 'will of God' is inevitably going to be subject to a certain amount of ambiguity and difference-of-opinion. When applied to the ownership of land, a certain amount of discord and discomfort seems inevitable.

                            Put bluntly, that's a scary concept you have there.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by MOBIUS
                              Every so often, your mantle of respectability slips to reveal the true character underneath...
                              Whereas you were never burdened by such a mantle in the first place.
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                              • #30
                                When Christians look at the Hebrew Bible, even athiest Christians, typically the Jews disappear, and all thats left is the "old Testament God", inferior, as always, to the "new Testament God". This is an old way for Christians to read scripture.
                                Uh, we were taught that the Jews are God's chosen people and the Gentiles are the table scraps that God graciously let us in.

                                Not sure what 'Christian interpretation' you are looking at, but that's not been my experience.
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