Will you be dumb enough to buy Beyond The Sword?

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Blake
I'm so awesome that EoN can only go into total denial about my existence .

[Blaupanzer]

I always SP and Civ IV is way the best AI for the series, without being blatantly stupid (Civ III's corruption system). BtS is supposedly improving the AI's willingness to go for cultural victories. A great add. I will get it as soon as it comes out.

Question: has it gone gold? (There is a thread on this on the Civ IV main forum, but no answer as of yet.)

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by EyesOfNight
As for Blake...never heard of him.

FYI - he's a guy that's done a hell of a lot for the SP community and for the game. You may not have noticed or cared for his work, but I think the community at large has.

[MJW]

Here was the PTWintersiteDG in a nutshell.

First the map:

GWT sea 'poly
Firaxis sea CDG
French sea GCA
CGN sea CFC

The French, CDG and 'poly got awful starts. Firaxis and CGN got insane starts. GCA, CFC and GWT got okay starts. Aeson totally called that playing on standard would shaft a bunch of teams.

There was a landbridge that CFC had that lead up to CDG but that turned into a dead zone save for a few luxes. There was a one-tile choke point CFC and CDG. And also GCA and CFC. First the other part of the world.

The Frech did a n00b error and ticked off CGN by walking into their territory. The french where the better team. But GWT and firaxis where tied down by their blood-war. They could do nothing but get grinded down by CGN and their broken start.

Soren played the game almost alone. He chose to do the SP-settler spam and beeline to the iron. GWT had no choice (CGN and french tied done by silly war) but to kill him by rushing (without iron!!!). Soren then *****ed about GWT cheating. He flat out lied about having hard feelings. His play was so weak that the leader of CGN glouted that firaxis was soo out of their league. E_T latter said to blame the game loss on CGN's weakness... No wonder Civ4 was bad for MP.

After Soren and the French where killed the GWT did something stuiped and pissed off CGN that they refused to talk to them for the rest of the game. GWT had no choice but to build an army and attack them before CGN could get their broken UU and crush them. CGN meanwhile naviely built a lot of culture buildings... This was the state of affiars before the two parts of the world came together. This was all found out by the fact that members for elminated teams could join alive ones. And CGN being opening in chat logs (not that it mattered).

Things where even stranger on our part of the world. Our start was so awful we could not do anything but build up. Nothing happened but normal expanding and typical saber-rattling and "bold" plans until...

CFC chocies to drop a city on the CFC-GCA choke point. The move in a bunch of warriors and connect the city to their captail. Oh, and they will soon have the abilty to make swords.

The city blocks off GCA's natural expansion and was a blatantly aggressive move. GCA wisely moves in an attacking stack before complaining. This sets up a "our" world wide nogations. Goonie and the teenagers totally blow it in spite of MZ's best efforts. (3 hour chat log!) GCA has no choice but to blow that city off the map.

CFC's lack of foresite allows GCA to more than hold and hold a big protion of their army in case CDG gets uppy and attacks. Of course, being CDG they deciede to attack with a bunch of imortals and a raze a city. However, there start sucked so bad that they could not compete with GCA with long term production. GCA got *lucky* rng roles killed the stack and crush CDG. They focused more on them because the hilly terrain slowed down the CFC campian a lot. They where also a lot closer to CDG.

GCA foolishy leaves CDG with one city. This allows 'poly diplomats to work out a deal with CDG, a hut and CFC that allows a large bost of the tech tree. At this point GCA is ripping CFC a new one too (they where *lucky* but not that unnormal. CFC attacked a GCA unit on a mountain too). So 'poly has no choice but to attack (otherwise we would become GCA's *****) We could have not attack CDG earlyer because they where strong-- they overdosed on miltary. We could have attacked when they attack CDG and where being smacked down but we had not made our mass upgrade trick yet. GCA's attack was lighting fast. I wonder why

We put CDG out of their suffering and attack GCA brakening countless deals (like tech) and promeises. They ***** at us. We have so much stuff they can not stop us from marching to there captail. Even when they took out 8 Nemiman Mercienres (2,4,1 spearman UU), on a hill, forifited, vet, loseing 0 battles and attacking only with horses (!!!!!!!) At this point it is clear that GCA is cheating . Their methond was untraceable. So they got away with it . This was so broken that the could have beat us. However, they could not do this for a long time for obvious reasons. This was the last major GCA attack of the game.

At this point it becomes clear to CFC that one way or another GCA is going down. They are also much weaker than apolyton due to E_T's insane mirco, their bad micro and most of all getting beat up by GCA. They decide to make a vague threat to us and we tell them to F off. CFC acted passive for the rest of the game. At this point all the Civs came into contact into eachother.

GCA decides to raze their captail "The other women was cast." (The meant, "The die was cast.") And move all there units to one city... Just before we kill them GWT does the flashest best move of the game. They gift GCA a city. GCA razes there last city on are city and teleports there army to the other side of the world (!!!).

At this point everyone more or less tells GWT that every will dopile on them unless the GWT kills GCA. GWT wisesly declines. Trip and everyone else thinks that CGN can hold out. GWT makes them makes them look like a bunch of n00bs ('cause they are) and quickly beats them. GCA's army defends GWT's weak spots so GWT has a free hand attacking.

We and CFC lauch an emergency attack to keep GWT and GCA (gwt was gifting them cities) under control. Telling CGN about it. It fails because CGN acts like a bunch emo losers allowing GWT/GCA to rush back and block all ways for us to land. We gift CGN a city. At this point it's GWT/GCA against CFC/'poly and CGN. They have a big edge to their much better homeland...

The game is getting unfun for us but we go on (it was not many turns.) Then CFC and CGN crack under yet another "silly" attack from GCA's leader. They decide to quit. We now have no chance alone against GCA and GWT so we quit to. Then GCA quits because they are not even close to willing to backstab GWT. GWT wins a conquest victory.

Not much happend after the game. The only really affcect is that everyone dogpilled on GWT and GCA because they "disliked" for the next sperate demo game (s). (there where two because there where too many websites) after that interstite demogames died. I think mainly because of the players acting more rationally...

That was long....

[snoopy369]

Blake

EoN, if you cared about Civ, you'd do what Blake does. He saw a glaring hole - AI - and instead of whining about it, he made a better AI. And they listened, and included it in BtS...

But if you prefer to just whine, that's fine

Winston, maybe you can ask for a Whining forum?

[MRT144]

although people inferior to me like EyesofNight have marginal purpose and use in my life, he sure brings loads of laughs for his jester-like ploys.

[Zevico]

As a relatively new player to Civ4, I have to agree that the interface is indeed shockingly bad.

[Kuciwalker]

The major problem with the interface is the awful lag. It's incredibly irritating, even on a top-of-the-line system from 2 years after the game's release.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Single Player

I don't play MP, so I couldn't care less. I play Civilization, so I like to build cities and occasionally fight a war. I don't play Starcraft, so games with quick military rushes to defeat all your enemies have no hold over me.

[EyesOfNight]

Blake

EoN, if you cared about Civ, you'd do what Blake does. He saw a glaring hole - AI - and instead of whining about it, he made a better AI. And they listened, and included it in BtS...

But if you prefer to just whine, that's fine

Winston, maybe you can ask for a Whining forum?

Snoopy, seriously, out of all the people I have to deal with on here you are the most annoying. Why? Because you actually think I should be the one fixing the god damn game. You are a total newbie and yet you still come into my threads and think you have something to say. The fact that Blake fixed the god damn AI is very noble, but why the **** can't a multi-million dollar game developer make the AI better? Are you some sort of ****ing communist or what? Go back to your SP and shut the **** up because I already made you look like an idiot in the last thread. You are the god damn reason this game turned out the way it did.

[MRT144]

EON makes the case for single player. How long could you actually deal with other people that try to bring you down to their pedestrian level of badgering and fallacious arguments?

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by EyesOfNight


Snoopy, seriously, out of all the people I have to deal with on here you are the most annoying. Why? Because you actually think I should be the one fixing the god damn game. You are a total newbie and yet you still come into my threads and think you have something to say. The fact that Blake fixed the god damn AI is very noble, but why the **** can't a multi-million dollar game developer make the AI better? Are you some sort of ****ing communist or what? Go back to your SP and shut the **** up because I already made you look like an idiot in the last thread. You are the god damn reason this game turned out the way it did.

*waves*

[EyesOfNight]

A guy like you really shouldn't be using the "I'm above you" strategy. You are more suited to using caps lock and screaming your opinion.

[Colon™]

Happy SP'er myself. Humans make a lousy RPG-setting.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Colon™
Happy SP'er myself. Humans make a lousy RPG-setting.

As stated before, EoN is enough to make you a single player. I wonder how anyone plays MP with nuts like EoN floating around.