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  • #91
    What is he doing?

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    • #92
      Originally posted by DAVOUT
      It seems that Tony Blair is now helping the Kac twins to destroy Europe.
      Sour grapes to see someone try and steal credit from France and their no vote wrt the destruction of Europe?
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      • #93
        Originally posted by Ecthy
        What is he doing?


        Britain has already won a great deal of what it wants. The word “constitution” abandoned. A “reform treaty” in its place. The title “foreign minister” dropped. But he will tell the other presidents and prime ministers that he must get not 90% of his demands but 100%. This makes me think that an agreement must be just about in the bag. But some of his demands seem almost calculated to offend. For instance, he wants it made clear that Javier Solana, or whoever becomes whatever it is they decide to call now the new foreign affairs chief, is just a servant of the prime ministers and presidents of the European Union and can’t go off and make policy on their own.

        Sour feelings

        There’s no doubt some countries feel sour towards Britain. Earlier this week, in Luxembourg, I was at a news conference held by the Czech deputy prime minister. When one journalist referred to “the constitution” he wagged his finger and said with a smile, “The treaty you mean”. Some of the journalists erupted. Spanish and Germans objected, with genuine passion: “But you signed it! If it was good two years ago, what’s wrong with it now?” If that’s what mere hacks feel, imagine what the politicians say. I tried to draw a senior British diplomat down this route, suggesting the British red lines were all about domestic politics not about the national interest, as perceived by the government. Urbanely, he replied there was no difference. Not for diplomats anyway.
        Statistical anomaly.
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        • #94
          <-- does not approve.

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          • #95
            Spanish homosexuals want Poland outside of the european union due to its crusade against butsecks, I also think they dont want to share eu money with Polish farmers
            I need a foot massage

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            • #96
              this seems to be turning out better than expected.
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              • #97
                This is good!

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                • #98
                  So what happened to "Nice or Death"?

                  Blah

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by BeBro
                    So what happened to "Nice or Death"?

                    The new system will be applied progressively from 2014 to be completely adopted in 2017. So, it is neither Nice nor death
                    Statistical anomaly.
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                    • Sarky's a traitor
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                      • Bah, what are You angry about. It is a defeat of Kaczynskis. A temporary success is not a success at all. Previous propositions were better. I don't like Joanina thing, it will not be good for EU.
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                        • Poland and the UK got away with too much, but aside from this it's ok.

                          Seriously, it was rather fun too see how everything began to move and the twins flip flopped after they were confronted with the idea of a governmental conference without Poland. Maybe they learned for the next time that they aren't the only ones who can take a more agressive stand in such negotiations.
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                          • Originally posted by DAVOUT
                            It seems that Tony Blair is now helping the Kac twins to destroy Europe.
                            You can just wait him out...come the middle of next week, he will no longer be PM...
                            Speaking of Erith:

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                            • Meh, seems like a bearable change. Provides less ammunition for people to accuse the EU of being a 'neoliberal' project.

                              If this is the biggest point of objection, the deal is pretty good indeed.
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                              • "Bearable" probably nails it. Still it's leaving a pretty bad aftertaste.

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