I'm about to break.

[Spec]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
I see people management isn't the foremost skill of yours Spec. I can take a lot of traits in bosses - even laziness where I end up covering their arses. But lack of appreciation and disrespect are certainly not ones I can tolerate. Perhaps if you wonder why you are getting low productivity out of your staff, look to how you treat them and respect them - if you're getting their backs up, don't expect good work from them.

What?! Low productivity? Where did you get that?

Everything is going perfectly! Production is perfect, no back orders, no shipping mistakes, no waiste....Nothing.

Their problem is, I'm not smilling or joking with them. That's it.

Spec.

[Spec]

Originally posted by Kidicious
Usually when people are appreciated and they hava a boss with good leadership qualities they don't jump over his head as a group.

And where did you get that? I have great leader ship, just no a smilling leader...If I was that bad, I wouldn't have had 3 raises in less than a year.

What bugs me, is after all the progress that was made since I got the job is that the owner got no thanks for me, and all I got was '' your employees think you're grim...'' Why should he care is what I'm thinking...

Spec.

[Spec]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison


Read between the lines...



There's the disrespect...



Poor people manager...straight from the bosses mouth. And that is the edited version in Spec's favour.



Pretty serious if someone has gone to your report's line manager to complain. I have only had to do that once before, and it was a serious matter to make me have to do it...

The angry attitude indicates to me that he has been caught with his pants down - ie, he's majorly f**ked off his employees and now he is angry with them because they couldn't tolerate his sh*t any longer.

There was no complaint made dude! The owner went around and asked questions...for PR reasons imo...and that's the only thing they said...And I find it weird that I'm criticised about it since every other thing is going perfect.

Wtf PH?!

Spec.

[Provost Harrison]

Sorry mate, but it sounds like you have a real bee in your bonnet about something. Life's too short to be grumpy, even at work...

[Spec]

Originally posted by Pekka
About the whole let's be nice thing in the working environment, I think it's important that the environment and atmosphere is open and welcoming, however!!!! When it gets to the fake thing, where everything is fake and pretending stuff, that's annoying, stupid and dishonest. It's a different thing to be nice than honest. Being nice is giving good feedback when the job is done well.

I do that all the time. Like, ALL THE TIME...just not while smilling.

Does the captain of a hockey team need to be all smiley and stuff to be a good leader. No.

Spec.

[Spec]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Sorry mate, but it sounds like you have a real bee in your bonnet about something. Life's too short to be grumpy, even at work...

?!?!

I'm not grumpy or unhappy. I'm just not the smiley type. That's all. I have always been that way when I am working, and all of a sudden I have to change that when I have more important things that need to be taken care of. That's my problem. I dont know how to be fake, and I am criticized about it when everything is going great...

Spec.

[Provost Harrison]

Well maybe you hate your job more than you think?

[Pekka]

No, a captain doesn't have to be smiling, but a captain has to lead the team, and make the team work. Part of it is that the team is happy, not just results. So it's difficult to tell. I wouldn't say smiling is a problem or not smiling, I assume they're picking up borderline hostility or something if they are complaining about it, or bringing it up.

Or one or two people have a problem with you and they have talked behind your back and a 'consensus' has been built where you are grumpy. I don't know. Could be many reasons why this has happened. But I would still say that it's part of the leading thingie, to keep people happy, within reasonable limits of course. I didn't smile a lot either, but I did chat with them and made the effort to learn who they are and be approachable. I'm not a smiley person, but I make myself to be safe, that is the opposite of hostile in working environment. Maybe they don't feel that you're safe or something, or that you got their back? They need to feel that you got their back, and if they don't know it, maybe you should say you do and when you show it in action, you make sure they knwo you did, in clever kind of hinting way. Then they respect you more.

[Spec]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Well maybe you hate your job more than you think?

Are you sure you are not high?

Originally posted by Spec ...I have always been that way when I am working...

Maybe I wasn't clear enough, but that's anywhere and everywhere I worked.

I AM, NATURALY, NOT THE SMILEY TYPE OF GUY, AT WORK.

I am not ''yelling'', just trying to be clear bro.

Spec.

[Spec]

Originally posted by Pekka
No, a captain doesn't have to be smiling, but a captain has to lead the team, and make the team work. Part of it is that the team is happy, not just results. So it's difficult to tell. I wouldn't say smiling is a problem or not smiling, I assume they're picking up borderline hostility or something if they are complaining about it, or bringing it up.

Or one or two people have a problem with you and they have talked behind your back and a 'consensus' has been built where you are grumpy. I don't know. Could be many reasons why this has happened. But I would still say that it's part of the leading thingie, to keep people happy, within reasonable limits of course. I didn't smile a lot either, but I did chat with them and made the effort to learn who they are and be approachable. I'm not a smiley person, but I make myself to be safe, that is the opposite of hostile in working environment. Maybe they don't feel that you're safe or something, or that you got their back? They need to feel that you got their back, and if they don't know it, maybe you should say you do and when you show it in action, you make sure they knwo you did, in clever kind of hinting way. Then they respect you more.

That's almost exactly what my direct boss said.

Spec.

[Pekka]

And that's why he is your boss!

In short, it's impossible to say if there's a problem or not. If the results aren't a problem, then from company point of view there isn't a big problem. But the problem is too complex to know from this description. It could be few complainers getting a chance to say something, it could your boss, it could be the company, the environment, it could be a lot of things where you have no play in it. So, can't really tell.

Of course, you should have a chance to defend yourself as well and explain yourself. If your boss didn't give you the chance to do this, well it is his mistake. As in, we know there are always few problems out there, so he should be able to analyze the situation using all the information he has, and not go directly to you and blame you, he should ask and then let you explain, and then see what's up. It could be a lot of things. You can't take the word of a complainer if the person would be like that. So he needs to have your back and unless he doesn't, he's a bad boss.

[Spec]

Well I think we can stop this discussion now. 90% of the people I asked say I should be more Mr.Cool. So I guess I'm at wrong.

I'll try that customer service attitude I guess. We'll see how it turns out.

Man you guys are soft...


Also, I got the day to let things sink in. I'm much less pissed now.

Spec.

[-Jrabbit]

I hate to appear unsympathetic, Spec, but...

Frankly, it sounds like you haven't developed the skills to be a good manager of people. Getting the job done is, of course, the main thing. But managers need people skills to encourage their dept. to be productive, and develop an atmosphere that encourages good employees to stick around. (That's not what you need to do; it's what your boss is trying to do.) I've been on both sides of this fence.

Saying your boss is being unreasonable is a form of denial. When you work in an organization, you need to become one with the corporate culture if you want to advance. If you can't take it, you're right to plan your departure.

Burning bridges at the manager level can really haunt you, if if you're planning to split.

[Spec]

Originally posted by -Jrabbit
I hate to appear unsympathetic, Spec, but...

Frankly, it sounds like you haven't developed the skills to be a good manager of people, yet.

Fixed.

Spec.

[Mercator]

Despite what I said earlier, I completely understand. I tend to just focus on work myself as well, and I'm not exactly the chatty type either.

I do think I smile quite a lot though, since I like being around people, and there are plenty of funny/weird people at my current temp job. But then I'm not in any sort of leadership position either, so I'm not the one who has to worry about things getting done on time.

Not sure what to do about it, though. You certainly shouldn't be faking anything. Trying to force some sort of jovial conversation when you're usually "grim" won't work anyway.