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  • Originally posted by Kidicious


    Yeah, they just can't be poor there where they have been since 1982. They have to be poor somewhere else, like the way black people could ride the bus but just couldn't ride in the front. A lot of people like you said what's the problem they get to ride the bus if the people in that state don't want them in the front that's their right. Then people got pissed off because the blacks started breaking the law, and saying they should obey the law. This is all familiar.
    Strawman
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    • Originally posted by laurentius
      but it was in the biggest Finnish news paper. and its known for its conservative leaning...
      Oh, just as I said - not connected with the real world
      With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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      • How pray, tell, did the Birmingham bus boycott break the law? Is there an affirmative legal obligation to ride the bus?

        Unlike the lunch counter sitins, etc, the bus boycott was NOT civil disobedience. Note Civil disobedience is non-violent protest, but not all non-violent protest is civil disobedience.

        Historical ignorance, however, is historical ignorance.
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        • Originally posted by laurentius
          Flubber: I have heard 100% contrary. Most of the Danes support the youth.

          Perhaps I am imposing my own worldview here but I am assuming that many Danes lead lives of moderate settled comfort and would be fearful of anything too disruptive. When they see cars exploding they fear it could be theirs and are uncomfortable with the resort to violence.

          All an assumption I confess but I would be shocked if the majority of a population supported riots in the circumstances currently existing in Denmark
          Last edited by Flubber; March 5, 2007, 17:42.
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          • Originally posted by Flubber



            THat would surprise me and also runs contrary to the opinions expressed by the Danes on here.

            Any source for what you heard?
            Its very weird, I cant find the one article where this was specifically mentioned. It seems to have been removed sometime today. There is one other thought. It is in Finnish.

            Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

            - Paul Valery

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            • I will try to find a source in English...
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              • Originally posted by laurentius


                Its very weird, I cant find the one article where this was specifically mentioned. It seems to have been removed sometime today. There is one other thought. It is in Finnish.

                http://www.hs.fi/ulkomaat/artikkeli/.../1135225534152

                Since I don't read Finnish I will just accept that you saw it somewhere.

                I continue to find it difficult to believe though.
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                • the media's perception can be warped and misleading regardless of origin. i dont believe the Danish people would support the crazed youth any more than Pekka would. They are disrupting structure and order within the society.
                  The Wizard of AAHZ

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                  • Fact: The Danes here do not represent the Danish people here. Just like Pekka doesnt represent Finns.

                    According to that article the Danes regard people who believe in authorities as naive.
                    Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

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                    • Originally posted by laurentius
                      Fact: The Danes here do not represent the Danish people here. Just like Pekka doesnt represent Finns.

                      According to that article the Danes regard people who believe in authorities as naive.


                      i guess i am naive then. following the rules is an important aspect of a democracy. if you dont like it... change it. but only barbarians would try to overthrow authorities with violent demonstrations.

                      let me flip the coin here though. hypothetically speaking if your CULT ran the world, and a situation like this arose to where it was the CHRISTIANS being evicted, would you, by conjecture, be naive by following your CULT's beliefs vs. the christians right to stay?
                      The Wizard of AAHZ

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                      • Originally posted by laurentius
                        Fact: The Danes here do not represent the Danish people here. Just like Pekka doesnt represent Finns.

                        According to that article the Danes regard people who believe in authorities as naive.
                        could you translate the article? so we could see that in context?
                        "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                        • Originally posted by laurentius
                          Fact: The Danes here do not represent the Danish people here. Just like Pekka doesnt represent Finns.
                          I appreciate they are a very small sample of Danish population ad that everyone has their own biases but I tend to like accounts from people that are actually close to the action

                          Originally posted by laurentius


                          According to that article the Danes regard people who believe in authorities as naive.
                          I know many many people that systemically distrust the "authorities" but they hate seeing large groups starting to blow things up even more.

                          What I don't get is why, if so many people support their cause, a supposedly lefty city council sells their building. Widespread support generally translates into political power, particularly when we are talking about municipal politicians
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                          • Ming siting and I noticed this thread is over 700. I expect it will be closed soon
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                            • twas fun gentlemen. no hard feelings on my end. quite the spirited debate however...
                              The Wizard of AAHZ

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                              • Originally posted by AAHZ
                                twas fun gentlemen. no hard feelings on my end. quite the spirited debate however...
                                At times . . . but frankly there are times when I see my worldview as being so fundamentally different than some of the commies that it seems impossible to have some commonality.

                                No I saw MIng was giving a chill message in another thread so I expected him here-- either to give a chill message ( but that seems to have resolved itself) or just close this up.

                                Perhaps he was just busy
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