Al Gore Rumbled

[Provost Harrison]

I didn't know Dis had a song?

[Drake Tungsten]

Coulter on Gore's energy bill...

"I kind of respect him more, it shows he is not stupid enough to believe all this global warming nonsense. He’s trying to get us to believe. Okay, fine, he may be a hypocrite but at least he’s not a moron."

I think that's fair.

[Kuciwalker]

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Coulter on Gore's energy bill...

"I kind of respect him more, it shows he is not stupid enough to believe all this global warming nonsense. He’s trying to get us to believe. Okay, fine, he may be a hypocrite but at least he’s not a moron."

I think that's fair.

It would be moronic to try to use less energy? I thought this Coulter lady was against terrorism, or at least pretended to be?

[DinoDoc]

So are you saying Gore is pro-Terrorist, LOTM?

[Drake Tungsten]

It would be moronic to try to use less energy?

No, it would be moronic to voluntarily reduce your own standard of living in order to "do something" about global warming. A smart man would convince other people to reduce their standard of living while maintaining their own, which is exactly what Gore is doing.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by DanS
This is funny. It tickles me.

On the other hand, even though he's crazy, I see nothing wrong with him encouraging others to conserve energy.

I imagine he's had to entertain a whole lot more since he released his film, won the academy award, and got nominated for the Noble Prize. I still wish he'd conserve more energy but the fact remains that you're once again slandering someone you don't like when you can't argue against his facts.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
I havent seen his film, but I assume that as a matter of public policy he supports a carbon tax, or some similar market solution. As long as hes willing and eager for that tax to apply to himself, I dont find him hypocritical.

This actually makes sense. I wish he'd reduce his own consumption though if he's willing to pay for it, along with the new carbon tax, then I guess it is his right.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
So are you saying Gore is pro-Terrorist, LOTM?

No, Im saying Anne Coulter is. Duh.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

It would be moronic to try to use less energy?

No, it would be moronic to voluntarily reduce your own standard of living in order to "do something" about global warming. A smart man would convince other people to reduce their standard of living while maintaining their own, which is exactly what Gore is doing.

Hes buying green energy AND carbon credits, which is exactly what hes suggesting other folk do. Frankly Id think having a more sensible house that uses less energy (sorry Kuci) and NOT buying carbon credits would be a better way to enhance ones standard of living. But then I measure my material standard of living in terms of things that I can actually use, not KWHs burned.

[Kuciwalker]

We use CFL's

[Drake Tungsten]

Hes buying green energy AND carbon credits, which is exactly what hes suggesting other folk do.

The average American can't afford to pay other people to offset their carbon use. It's great for Gore that he can buy indulgences to avoid reducing his energy consumption, but it's not a viable solution for the common man.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

Hes buying green energy AND carbon credits, which is exactly what hes suggesting other folk do.

The average American can't afford to pay other people to offset their carbon use. It's great for Gore that he can buy indulgences to avoid reducing his energy consumption, but it's not a viable solution for the common man.

then i guess current economic policies arent so great if theyve left us so poor, then, huh?

In any case I guess youve stepped back from "hes encouraging other folks to do what he wont do" to "he encouraging others to do what he can afford to do, but others cant"

BY the way, I cant afford the cars I need to maintain my proper high energy use - (well not if theyre gonna be late model and decent cars) shall I steal yours? Mr Gore CAN afford them, so if he suggests I dont, that would be great hypocrisy on his part, no?

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

Hes buying green energy AND carbon credits, which is exactly what hes suggesting other folk do.

The average American can't afford to pay other people to offset their carbon use. .

Everyone keeps saying this. How much do carbon credits go for these days? Are the carbon credits associated with one KWH more expensive than the energy? Cause somehow we've all managed to afford vastly higher energy prices. We adjust, as is the way of the market economy. We adjust to increasing costs in any area. Why are carbon credits the one cost we cant possibly adjust to?

[Drake Tungsten]

then i guess current economic policies arent so great if theyve left us so poor, then, huh?

What are you talking about? You don't have to be poor to not want to pay higher prices for green energy and more money on top of that for someone to offset your carbon use. Such a system is appealing for folks like Gore who have more than enough money to throw around to keep up appearances, but it's not a workable model for the average American citizen.

Why are carbon credits the one cost we cant possibly adjust to?

What utility do you get out of the purchase of a carbon credit? Gore can use it as evidence that he's really doing something about global warming while he continues to consume large amounts of energy. It obviously offers benefits to him. What does it offer to the average person, though? Why would the marginal benefit of a carbon credit be higher than the marginal cost for me, for example? I don't have environmental crusader credentials to shore up. I'd much rather have my money to put to other uses...