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solar in Nebraska? Makes more sense to have it where I live when we get 330 or more days of sun a year.Comment
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EmperprFabu;pus and his friends haven't figured out that the world doesn'trevolve around them. They still think they are the be all and end all of the world. They're arrogant enough to believe that.Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
Wow. I've been gone awhile, but you haven't changed much.
What, exactly, is "dumb" about this? I mean, besides the fact you SAY its "dumb"...Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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The possibilities range from a contained meltdown (you only lose billions of dollars) to something Chernobyl-scale (which is possible) where the liability of the company would be in the tens or hundreds of billions.Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
I'm not sure how a single failure could wipe out an entire insurance company. It would take a Chernobyl-scale disaster, which is extremely unlikely given modern designs and non-Russian management...Comment
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Right now the government insures all nuclear facilities for free under the Price-Anderson Nuclear Incentives Act, because no private insurance companies would insure today's nuclear plants. This amounts to a massive government subsidy.Comment
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I can't think of many better govt subsidies than underwriting nuclear power. It has to be the way to go.Comment
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I have nothing to contribute other than calling out the irony of this entire discourse being conducted, via electricity, over Al Gore's Internet.
Just thought I'd point that out.
Tom P.
NOTE: If you're stupid enough to think I'm serious you might want to talk to a profesional. They have medicine for that now.Comment
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You realize that the cost to society is the same either way, right? Either nuclear power is economical or it is not; hiding the costs of the risk associated with it behind legislation does nothing to make it cheaper in reality.Originally posted by Cort Haus
I can't think of many better govt subsidies than underwriting nuclear power. It has to be the way to go.Comment
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This is news how? Gore's hypocrisy was outed months ago when it was disclosed how he flew to all his engagements to promote his film by private jet...
Still, it doesn't change the essential message of the film despite the fact that the person spreading it doesn't practice what he preaches...Comment
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Are you familiar with the US legal system? Even something less than a Chernobyl-scale disaster could end up being staggeringly expensive... perhaps even enough to bankrupt a medium-sized insurance company. Probably not mine, since we're big, but then again I doubt we'd touch nuclear power with a 12-foot electified cattle prod...Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
I'm not sure how a single failure could wipe out an entire insurance company. It would take a Chernobyl-scale disaster, which is extremely unlikely given modern designs and non-Russian management...
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The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.Comment
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Zactly. My point. I could care less what Gore does in the same vein that I could care less what he preaches. He's just not credible, period, end of story, fully stop.Originally posted by MOBIUS
This is news how? Gore's hypocrisy was outed months ago when it was disclosed how he flew to all his engagements to promote his film by private jet...
Still, it doesn't change the essential message of the film despite the fact that the person spreading it doesn't practice what he preaches..."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy CarterComment
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This continues to amuse me. There are 404 articles in English in Google News about this.
Well played, I must say.
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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I want a pony!Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
He wants to find alternate sources, ones that are renewable, ones he can pay 30,000 per year for that his children can pay loads for in 50 years, which will not further harm the environment.
With his profile, there are many things he could do to promote alternate sources of energy, like investing in solar power technology start-ups. So far, the only energy investment associated with Gore the Bore has been his investment in Occidental Petroleum.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Here's a pair of nice smackdowns of this rather pathetic smear against Gore:
David Roberts
02.28.2007
Talking Points on the Gore Pseudo-Scandal
READ MORE: Al Gore
I just talked with a reporter from CNS News -- a right-wing media site -- about the Al Gore pseudo-scandal. Who knows how my comments will end up being represented in the piece. Probably something like, "Al Gore ... does it ... with ... hogs."
But just to keep a public record, here are the talking points I shared with him. Feel free to borrow them for your own encounters with media or family and friends:
* It's nice to see the conservative media taking the message of conservation and energy efficiency seriously. Hopefully they will hold their own leaders and readers to the same high standards.
* The Tennessee Tax Dept. does not consider the "Tennessee Center for Policy Research," which roughly no one had heard of before this, a legitimate group. It's run by a long-time right-wing attack hack, and its only registered address is a P.O. box. Why is everyone in the media taking what it says about Gore's electricity use at face value?
* Gore's electricity company has no record of being contacted about his bills.
* The "average" home electricity use quoted by TCPR is a national average that includes apartments and mobile homes. In Gore's climatic zone, the East South Central (Dept. of Energy PDF), the average is much higher, thanks to hot, humid summers and cold winters. Within that zone, Gore's usage is three (not 20) times average, and his per-square-foot usage is squarely average. (More here.)
* The Gores are not an average family. He's an ex-VP with special security arrangements, and has live-in security staff. He and his wife both work on their many business and charitable undertakings out of their house, so they have space for offices and office staff. All that would be tough to cram in an average size house.
* Gore buys the maximum allowable green electricity from the program offered by his utility.
* Most of the electricity in TN comes from hydro and nuclear, and so doesn't generate all that much CO2 anyway.
The larger point, which probably won't work well as a cable-show soundbite but is nonetheless true, is that Gore has done heroic work making global warming a top issue for governments the world over. He has prompted more individual and collective action on this issue than anyone else alive. The changes he has wrought outweigh his personal carbon emissions by many orders of magnitude.
They know Gore's message is winning. They know they are losing. Even if they're successful in tarnishing Gore, it won't change that.
grist.org
Olbermann on Gore’s Energy Use: Setting the Record Straight
By: SilentPatriot on Wednesday, February 28th, 2007 at 5:05 AM - PST
You knew after his big night at the Oscars Sunday, the far right would come out in full force against former Vice President Gore. Since these single-minded sensationalists never let those pesky "facts" get in the way, Keith breaks down the utility bill.
*video provided at link*
I have no problem with "think-tanks" scrutinizing Al Gore, but (a) for The Tennessee Center for Policy Research to call itself an independent and nonpartisan organization is laughable and (b) if they want to maintain that facade, try getting the full story at least.
(Nicole: Do you suppose that they are equally up in arms by the fact that taxpayers are paying Dick Cheney's electric bill at the Vice President's mansion? You know, the one that had an $186,000 electric bill in 2001? Nah, that probably doesn't bother them in the least.)
Breaking news from Will Bunch: Al Gore uses electricity…The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.
The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.Comment
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Is accusing the Tennessee Center for Policy Research of bias really the best Olbie and Co. can do? As far as I know, Gore's utility bills are in the public record and the claims of the think-tank have checked out...
Speaking of fact-checking...
Originally posted by DRoseDARs
Most of the electricity in TN comes from hydro and nuclear, and so doesn't generate all that much CO2 anyway.
Fossil fuel plants produced 62% of TVA’s total generation in fiscal year 2005, nuclear power 28%, and hydropower 10%.
I wonder how much more bull**** is contained in that pair of "nice smackdowns"...KH FOR OWNER!
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