Will americans say "yes maam" to their next president ?

[Joseph]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


How would you like to be subjected to what our people are doing for a few years?

Not even close to what happen to our guys in nam.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Ok and yall would like this ice queen to do what as she runs for office to run the country?, dawn an apron and hand u guys an apple pie??? Or would you rather her try to make a difference that im sure all of you guys will be *****ing about in 3 months after she is elected

[Ben Kenobi]

Ice queen?

Very true.

I don't mind having a lady as prime minister who does stuff, just not Hillary tho.

[Kuciwalker]

I thought Condi was the ice queen

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by DaShi
A lot of christians simply voted for Bush "because he prays."

Hilary prays too. Apparently she was an active church youth group member, and went with her youth group to hear MLK speak. A type of religiosity that is disliked by many on the right, as well as by some on the left.

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
Ok and yall would like this ice queen to do what as she runs for office to run the country?, dawn an apron and hand u guys an apple pie??? Or would you rather her try to make a difference that im sure all of you guys will be *****ing about in 3 months after she is elected

Heh. You go Mrs. T.



I don't like Hillary much, and yeah it's due to my perception of her personality... which I recognize as silly. I'll get past that when it comes time to make a decision.

-Arrian

[Datajack Franit]

Condi for President

[Lord Avalon]

Mmmmm... apple pie.... [/Homer]

(Sorry, couldn't resist. )

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
Ok and yall would like this ice queen to do what as she runs for office to run the country?, dawn an apron and hand u guys an apple pie??? Or would you rather her try to make a difference that im sure all of you guys will be *****ing about in 3 months after she is elected

Cause you've never voted based on personality? Give me a break... we all do it.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Cranky
I like McCain too. But you got to be a bit of a psycho to like the torture crap, no matter who your dealing with. I guess McCain had to experience torture during his war years so he knows what it feels like. Which made him oppose the inbred texas fool who wanted to torture people.

Mccain is also against sports betting.

whatever happened to republican small goverment?

[Dis]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
I'd be rather disturbed if people were actually enjoying their time in Gitmo...

it's the carribean. What's not to like?

[DaShi]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


Hilary prays too. Apparently she was an active church youth group member, and went with her youth group to hear MLK speak. A type of religiosity that is disliked by many on the right, as well as by some on the left.

But when Bush prays, God talks back. Or so he claims.

[Ellestar]

Who cares? As long as next US president will have at least some brains, anyone will be fine compared to Bush.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


Hilary prays too. Apparently she was an active church youth group member, and went with her youth group to hear MLK speak. A type of religiosity that is disliked by many on the right, as well as by some on the left.

Glad you mentioned this. Check out the opening paragraphs of a recent issue of the Atlantic Monthly; I've boldfaced the essence of it for the ADD crowd here, but the last two paragraphs are worth reading in their entirety:

Of the many realms of power on Capitol Hill, the least understood may be the lawmakers’ prayer group. The tradition of private worship in small, informal gatherings is one that stretches back for generations, as does a genuine tendency within them to transcend partisanship, though as with so much that is religiously oriented in Washington, the chief adherents are the more conservative Republicans.

Most of the prayer groups are informally affiliated with a secretive Christian organization called the Fellowship, established in the 1930s by a Methodist evangelist named Abraham Vereide, whose great hope was to preach the word of Jesus to political and business leaders throughout the world. Vereide believed that the best way to change the powerful was through discreet personal ministry, and over his lifetime he succeeded to a remarkable degree. The first Senate prayer group met over breakfast in 1943; a decade later one of its members, Senator Frank Carlson, persuaded Dwight Eisenhower to host a Presidential Prayer Breakfast, which has become a tradition.

Though it still sponsors what is now called the National Prayer Breakfast, the Fellowship scrupulously avoids publicity, as Vereide insisted it must. “If you want to help people, Jesus said, you don’t do your alms in public,” Douglas Coe, the group’s leader since the late 1960s, said in a rare interview several years ago.

Today, on Capitol Hill, as the old avenues of bipartisanship have gradually been blocked off by hardening ideology, the prayer groups have become cherished sanctuaries for their members—providing respite, however brief, from the cacophony of political Washington. Speaking about a group is strongly discouraged, and what transpires at meetings is strictly off the record. As a result, the groups provide an intimate setting in which members can share their faith without fear of being judged. “Once you take off the cloak of politics and look into a person’s soul, you find that you can establish a relationship that is enduring and deep and doesn’t let politics get in the way,” one longtime participant explained to me. “If you’re going to be consistent with the teachings of Jesus, it’s about forgiveness, reconciliation, and peace.” Many who come, he said, are surprised to wind up forming close friendships with colleagues who in any other setting would be considered political enemies.

You’re not supposed to think about lofty spiritual affairs in terms so temporal as their political importance. But among the prayer groups, one holds special status: a tight-knit gathering of about a dozen senators which still meets every Wednesday morning for prayer and discussion, led by Douglas Coe himself. Each week, someone starts the meeting by giving personal testimony, secure in the support of the audience. Once, Senator Dan Coats stood before the group and sang “Jesus Loves Me, This I Know.”

The roster of regular participants has included such notable conservative names as Brownback, Santorum, Nickles, Enzi, and Inhofe. Then, in 2001, just after the new class of senators was sworn in, another name was added to the list: Hillary Rodham Clinton.

One spring Wednesday, a few months into the term, Senator Sam Brownback’s turn came to lead the group, and he rose intending to talk about a recent cancer scare. But as he stood before his colleagues Brownback spotted Clinton, and was overcome with the impulse to change the subject of his testimony. “I came here today prepared to share about this experience in my life that has caused great suffering, the result of which has deepened my faith,” Brownback said, according to someone who watched the scene unfold. “But I’m overcome now with only one thought.” He confessed to having hated Clinton and having said derogatory things about her. Through God, he now recognized his sin. Then he turned to her and asked, “Mrs. Clinton, will you forgive me?” Clinton replied that she would, and that she appreciated the apology.

“It was an extraordinary moment,” the member told me.

Hillary has some legit credibility regarding her faith -- more than, for example, Reagan ever did -- and she's actually got Sam Brownback as a witness. That's going to alienate dopey leftists and fail to convince hard-core Clinton-haters(neither of whom would vote for her anyway) but will play well in a pitch to the middle. Expect to hear lots more about it as the campaign unfolds.

And, for those interested, the entire, very long, article is here: http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200611/green-hillary

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly

Hillary has some legit credibility regarding her faith

But perhaps no more than Obama. And there's no religiosity that is as acceptable on the left as black religiosity - though Obama is UCC, and thats a very white church, no gospel singers, etc. There his "whiteness", otherwise an advantage, may play against what could have been a strength.