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Chavez once again porves he's a tin pot dictator in the making.
The Left SRs took up arms against the revolution. They kinda brought their fate upon themselves.
The Bolsheviks were a minority in the Constituent Assembly, and they justified their refusal to bow to it based on the election to it having taken place before the left SRs split off from the official PSR. They asserted the Left SRs were underrepresented. The Left SRs thus WERE the democratic justification for Bolshevik rule, such as there was one. The Bolsheviks then did things (like signing Brest Litovsk) that the Left SRs disagreed with. The Bolsheviks, having ruled without support of the PSR or the Mensheviks, decided to ignore Left SR opposition as well.
What is a revolutionary party to do when faced with such arrogant tyranny? Revolt, of course. But the counter revolutionary, anti-democratic dictatorship of the Bolsheviks won.
Ironic then, that the Ven Com Party may be repeating the mistakes of the opponents of the Bolsheviks, in trusting to the good will and socialist spirit of those who would establish democratic centralism, rather than trust in "bourgeois" democratic legal norms.
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
Originally posted by DinoDoc
Strange leap to make given the topic of his post.
Probably, but I obviously was reading too quickly.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
Originally posted by lord of the mark
The Bolsheviks were a minority in the Constituent Assembly, and they justified their refusal to bow to it based on the election to it having taken place before the left SRs split off from the official PSR. They asserted the Left SRs were underrepresented. The Left SRs thus WERE the democratic justification for Bolshevik rule, such as there was one. The Bolsheviks then did things (like signing Brest Litovsk) that the Left SRs disagreed with. The Bolsheviks, having ruled without support of the PSR or the Mensheviks, decided to ignore Left SR opposition as well.
You do realize the Bolsheviks had a gun to their head when they signed Brest-Litovsk? If the SRs wanted to fight on they weren't living in reality. The Russian army was non-existent.
Yes, the whole thing was a complete mess.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
Yes, because you don't know a god damned thing about Venezuela and yet you pontificate about it like a GOP talking head on FOX News.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
Can you point to one instance where a communist revolution has been what you would deem as successful.
and yes I know all the failures are due to the big bad upper classes mucking things up so I can be spared that part of the answer. I just wondered what countries in what time period you would hold up as the example of what communism should be. Its seems obvious that you are not in love with everything going on in Venezuela .
You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo
I think I have it pegged. 10 years from now Chavez is still there, he's still ruling by decree, and his people are worse off then ever before.
THats probably pretty close. I'd say Chavez rules by decree . AS for the people being worse off . . . His redistribution of wealth may mask it but the lack of foreign investment and the flight of more of the educated and skilled will all have negative impacts.
A new town in Alberta gets named New Caracas
You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo
Originally posted by Flubber
Can you point to one instance where a communist revolution has been what you would deem as successful.
Nope, but the first few hundred years of capitalist revolutions weren't so hot either. The Americans were the first ones to get it right, only 250 years after the Protestant Revolts in Germany.
We'll get it right one of these times. We're getting closer and closer. Sandinista Nicaragua is hardly an example of mass murder and political repression.
Chavez's rule by decree powers, while odious to us in the 1st world, are hardly uncharacteristic of Venezuelan politics. Both the 1999 and the 1961 Constitutions allowed it. Five Presidents, including Chavez have used it, and Chavez has held the power twice before, without anyone screaming bloody murder.
As for term limits, I don't believe in them anyway. It should go away there and it should go away here. It's anti-democratic.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
Originally posted by Flubber
the flight of more of the educated and skilled will all have negative impacts.
A new town in Alberta gets named New Caracas
Perhaps, but it's not like they can't hire foreign engineers. That's just a problem in the medium run. In the long run, they can train new people for the jobs.
As for lack of foreign investment, I doubt foreign corporations are going to run away as long as they get compensated for their losses. Venezuela's hardly the first country to do this and they haven't been as severe as others.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
Nope, but the first few hundred years of capitalist revolutions weren't so hot either. The Americans were the first ones to get it right, only 250 years after the Protestant Revolts in Germany.
An honest answer. I actually think capitalist democracies can be improved. I actually like them to have the caveat "with a social safety net". Although the net has many holes, in Canada no one needs to starve. I think tehre should be a way to do morer but the problem is that those that most need help are the most likely to reject it.
But my question to you would be... what is wrong wih a Canada? Is it the disparity of wealth?
Originally posted by chegitz guevara
We'll get it right one of these times. We're getting closer and closer. Sandinista Nicaragua is hardly an example of mass murder and political repression.
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My problem is that I don't think that you will. Most high-achievers do not wish equality of situation and I have never had a communist satisfactorily answer how to reward initiative. I have always thought that communism works quite fine in small communities wherer each person saw their well being tied directly to the community but that it weakened as people saw that connection weaken.
Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Chavez's rule by decree powers, while odious to us in the 1st world, are hardly uncharacteristic of Venezuelan politics. Both the 1999 and the 1961 Constitutions allowed it. Five Presidents, including Chavez have used it, and Chavez has held the power twice before, without anyone screaming bloody murder.
Should we not aspire to do better. The fact that something was done before does not make it desirable
Originally posted by chegitz guevara
As for term limits, I don't believe in them anyway. It should go away there and it should go away here. It's anti-democratic.
I actually don't love term limits either but I always felt that any president, if they wanted to change it, should make the change effective after they left office. My bottom line is that if a term limit applies when someone eneters office, it should apply to them. If a change is good for the country, it should be good notwithstanding that it does not allow the current pres. to retain power
You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo
Originally posted by chegitz guevara
As for term limits, I don't believe in them anyway. It should go away there and it should go away here. It's anti-democratic.
You don't know your luck.
The lack of term-limits is one of the reasons why French politicians can stay in place until they're about 80
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Perhaps, but it's not like they can't hire foreign engineers. That's just a problem in the medium run. In the long run, they can train new people for the jobs.
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They can . . . but venezuela is not exactly a highly-desired posting and most of the majors are not exactly clamouring to send their people there.
Training . . . takes time and money and given a current shortage of skilled oil people, its neither immediate or easy.
Its not like you can take an average high-school dropout and teach him geophysics or engineering right away
Originally posted by chegitz guevara
As for lack of foreign investment, I doubt foreign corporations are going to run away as long as they get compensated for their losses. Venezuela's hardly the first country to do this and they haven't been as severe as others.
WE shall see. With Chavez, there will be two major impacts... One is whatever he does and the second is what they fear he might do. I just don't see major capital returning there in the same way it has in the past during the Chavez reign. The political uncertainty risk factor is just too high
You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo
Originally posted by Flubber
My problem is that I don't think that you will.
Most everyone thought democracy in America would fail right away. There was republican rule before, but the idea of the people selecting their leaders, nonsense!
I think we can do this. I think we have to do this. Even in the advanced capitalist societies, we still condemn one out of five to lives of poverty, and most of the rest suffer varying degrees of alienation.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
Most everyone thought democracy in America would fail right away. There was republican rule before, but the idea of the people selecting their leaders, nonsense!
and we once thought man would never fly and we did etc etc
BUt just because other ideas that were discounted turned out to work ok is hardly an argument that any idea that failed could potentially work.
On the flip side, the fact that communism has no shining examples is not final and conclusive that it never could
Originally posted by chegitz guevara
I think we can do this. I think we have to do this. Even in the advanced capitalist societies, we still condemn one out of five to lives of poverty, and most of the rest suffer varying degrees of alienation.
I don't think we "condemn" anyone to any particular fate. I grew up in rural Newfoundland. Look at the numbers-- IN Canadian terms thats about as poor as it gets. But guess what, there was LOTS of opportunity and ANYONE that worked hard and didn't have a catastrophe strike them, is now comfortably middle-class.
I have seen first-hand the initiative-killing influnce of socialist-style redistributive policies and fear that communist policies would be an order of magnitude worse. Perhaps I am wrong.
You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo
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