Chavez once again porves he's a tin pot dictator in the making.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Maybe you were. I wasn't.

I think it was fairly clearly that Oerdin, IS, and myself were discussing political rights. If you were not discussing them, I take it that you accept IS's points re political rights.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


I never said I was neutral. I'm very definitely partisan and I don't pretend otherwise. I have a side, the side of the working class. I am opposed to the bourgeoisie. I hope to someday abolish them, non-violently if we can, violently if we are forced to resort to such in order to defend our lives.

1. You are a partisan for a specific policy for the working class. Its quite possible to support working class interests per se, while not believing the abolition of the bourgeosie is one of those interests.

2. You are, in this debate, a partisan for Chavez in particular - IE you are willing to accept his approach to HOW he abolishes the bourgeois, which apparently is with methods of illegality such that the heir to the bourgeois will not be the working class, but, as in so many instances in the last hundred years, the purportedly revolutionary state and its new class.

[Admiral]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
How is that any different from leftists who said they'd move to Canada if Bush were reelected?

Action vs rhetoric. Liberals didn't move to Canada.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by lord of the mark

I think it was fairly clearly that Oerdin, IS, and myself were discussing political rights. If you were not discussing them, I take it that you accept IS's points re political rights.

I was talking about property rights.

[Saras]

Property is theft. [pause] NOT!

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


I was talking about property rights.

You shouldn't've burst into a discussion of political rights, then.


BTW, I know a number of Iranian bourgeois types who left the place in the '90s. You figure they did it out of spite too?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Venezuela will survive the loss of traitorous dinosaurs.

I don't think so. Venezuela needs every drop of oil it can get. Whatever portion of oil reserves they have that were from traitorous dinosaurs is equally as needed as the stuff from patriotic ones.

Myabe this is the reason why teh oil production has dropped off, they need a way to pump teh traitorous dinos out of the ground.

[Dinner]

Anyone want to bet that 10 years from now Chavez is still there and that he continues to get more repressive? That's the pattern most people like Mugabe and Castro have followed.

[Zkribbler]

He reminds me alot of Huey Long...he works for the little guy, not so much to help the little guy, but rather to build a power base, to which he gathers more and more authority.

If the analogy holds, someone will shoot him.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Anyone want to bet that 10 years from now Chavez is still there and that he continues to get more repressive?

I find it highly likely. Rule by decree stinks utterly.

[chequita guevara]

I think it's a distinct possibility, but it's not necessarily a given. You can't convict a person for a crime he might commit.

[Zkribbler]

Are you kidding?? In Texas, the execute retarded children from crimes they didn't commit.

[chequita guevara]

We're talking about civilized countries, Zkrib.

[Gatekeeper]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
I never said I was neutral. I'm very definitely partisan and I don't pretend otherwise. I have a side, the side of the working class. I am opposed to the bourgeoisie. I hope to someday abolish them, non-violently if we can, violently if we are forced to resort to such in order to defend our lives.

Did somebody spike your fruit juice?

[chequita guevara]

I'm a communist. Get over it.