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  • #76
    Originally posted by lord of the mark


    You think religious people are more likely to be cokeheads?

    I dont get the impression that is the message Obama is spreading.
    I don't think you're parsing things as I intend you to.

    I'm saying that if we actually educated people, they'd be less likely to believe the "Intelligent Design" or "God's Green Earth" bull**** peddled by politically-motivated religionistas.

    They'd be less likely to waste their money on lottery tickets.

    They'd realize that being a cokehead is not a general path to success.

    They'd realize that studying well is one of the better methods of trying to acheive a higher standard of living.

    They'd realize that they'd be better off not buying the bull**** peddled by demagogues and talking heads hook, line, and sinker.
    B♭3

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Arrian
      Well that is a common extremist criticism of moderates. You know, the "yellow streak in the middle of the road" thing?

      -Arrian
      Typical of idealistic yutes without a clue.
      "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

      “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Q Cubed

        I don't think you're parsing things as I intend you to.

        I'm saying that if we actually educated people, they'd be less likely to believe the "Intelligent Design" or "God's Green Earth" bull**** peddled by politically-motivated religionistas.

        Im not sure how im supposed to get that from this

        "Maybe they'll also learn what good odds are, when to make good gambles, not play the lottery, and become rational people who understand how science works and are less likely to be swayed by statistically improbable imaginary bearded men."
        "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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        • #79
          Am I missing something?
          Yes. I was talking about the thread in general rather than a particular post. No one here made a thread about how great Obama is because of the admission. I see it as a mild plus, but not very important. Hence your "Obama Akbar" response is overblown.

          Clear now?
          No. That comment clearly implied that it had to do with local political ambitions.
          "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
          -Bokonon

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          • #80
            You should take a look at her website. Somehow support for raising the minimum wage, mental health care for seniors and Alzheimers research, AIDS, public health preparedness arent liberal positions?
            She doesn't talk about them all that much. Look at what she has gotten a lot of attention in the national press for in recent years. It's usually not bread and butter liberal positions. Her rhetoric is not commensurate with her record.

            Again, I'm not saying that she's alone in doing that, or that her pandering isn't overblown, but it's not imaginary.
            "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
            -Bokonon

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Ramo


              She doesn't talk about them all that much. Look at what she has gotten a lot of attention in the national press for in recent years. It's usually not bread and butter liberal positions. Her rhetoric is not commensurate with her record.

              Again, I'm not saying that she's alone in doing that, or that her pandering isn't overblown, but it's not imaginary.
              if you check her website, she recently did a photo-op thingie on the minimum wage. She sure as hell wanted publicity for it. Its not her fault what the national press picks up - I guess a liberal Senator from NY supporting an increase in the minimum wage doesnt strike editors as newsworthy - dog bites man, you know.

              And of course if you hang out at gaming sites, or libertarian sites, or at leftish sites where people are looking for reasons to paint hillary as rightist, youre gonna see her positions on video games mentioned alot.

              I still dont see how its a left right thing though.
              "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Ramo


                Yes. I was talking about the thread in general rather than a particular post.
                The thread in general hadn't turned to any discussion of morality. Merely how we have had a preponderance of drug using pols on the national scene and whoops looks like here comes another.

                It was you that decided to take teh opporuntiy to sing hossanahs to Obamas name and spin bad into good.

                No one here made a thread about how great Obama is because of the admission.
                Becasue they would be laughed at like I am doing now to you.

                I see it as a mild plus, but not very important.
                Good for you. I see it as neither and not important other than if he is using today.

                Hence your "Obama Akbar" response is overblown.
                Gee dya think?

                No. That comment clearly implied that it had to do with local political ambitions.
                It did? The amount of mud slinging back then in local election stuff probably didn;t warrent any full disclosure expose. OTOH perhaps it played well with the gangbanger consitutuency.
                "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                • #83
                  It was you that decided to take teh opporuntiy to sing hossanahs to Obamas name and spin bad into good.
                  I don't see what's so terrible about making a few mistakes when you're a kid. And I respect someone who owns up to his mistakes. I don't see what's so confusing. Turning that into OBMAMAMAAMAM AKBAR is kinda pathetic.

                  Becasue they would be laughed at like I am doing now to you.
                  By your lonesome. Not a coincidence.

                  It did?
                  Then you tell me what it was supposed to imply.
                  "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                  -Bokonon

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Arrian
                    Honest politician

                    Even if he is now... not for long!

                    Honest politician
                    QFT
                    Unbelievable!

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                    • #85
                      Why don't Republicans ever focus on the issues rather than the personal life of their opponents?

                      Oh right, nearly forgot.
                      “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                      "Capitalism ho!"

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                        Having the balls to admit that you snorted coke in high school in your own memoir


                        I'd have a lot more respect for him if he hadn't admitted it. What are we supposed to tell kids when a Presidential candidate not only isn't ashamed to admit that he used cocaine, but tries to turn his openness about it into a badge of honor? Or, to paraphrase Chris Rock, how do you tell your kid not to get high when the Democratic presidential candidate is happy to tell everyone he snorted coke?
                        I'm gonna go ahead and disagree with you here, Drake.

                        I've often said that the thing I most admire about Bush is that he was able to overcome his chemical addictions, both cocaine and alcohol. That shows a profound strength of character that has, to my great disappointment, has not been evident in him otherwise.
                        "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                        "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                        • #87
                          I heard last that Bush had hit the bottle again.
                          “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                          "Capitalism ho!"

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                          • #88
                            Unfounded rumors. That's dirty pool. At least the coke allegations have significant evidence backing them up.
                            "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                            "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
                              Typical of idealistic yutes without a clue.
                              Check check check, we have Odin.

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                              • #90
                                One might think that with a name like O BAMA that he'd be liked here but it doesnt seem to be true. Dunno why? I guess it's cos he's a typical wishy-washy liberal (every time I saw him in the senate committee meetings he spoke then voted with true liberal doublespeak). Bah!
                                We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
                                If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
                                Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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