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Originally posted by Elok
How do you figure? It's not like we would necessarily be able to detect a soul at work.
How do you figure? It's not like we would necessarily be able to detect a soul at work.
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If it does something that influence the behaviour of physical matter it can therefore be detected, at least in principle.Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?
It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok -
Now if it weren't for that pesky gulf between "in principle" and "in practice"...Comment
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Even if the soul thing can't be detected, it can at least be hypothesized about. There still exist today a host of theoretical particles that we predict will exist, but haven't found yet.
There has not, however, been any need in science to predict the appearance of a soul, as it has not fit into any mathematical calculations, nor had observable results on physical systems.Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
"We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La RochefoucauldComment
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That's why scientific knowledge is provisional.Originally posted by Elok
Now if it weren't for that pesky gulf between "in principle" and "in practice"...
Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?
It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- ElokComment
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If there's a soul, is it anything like the popular notion? We've seen it often in cartoons and movies. The soul is a ghostly image of your physical self. You can also see and hear everything around you. And, most importantly, you can remember who you are and what you have done in your life.
If that is the soul, then...
- How come our souls can see without eyes, hear without ears?
- How come blind or deaf people can't see or can't hear? They have a souls, after all.
- How can we remember who we are and what we have done in our life, without a brain? And if we can remember things without having a brain, how come people who had major brain injuries or diseases (people with Alzheimer's, for example) can't remember anything?
And if we can't hear, see, touch, taste and if our memories are wiped out after we die, do you really care whether the soul exists or not? If your memory is completely wiped out, you are no more. Assuming, for the sake of the argument, that my soul is capable of conscious thought, it will not know who I was, what I have done in my life, who I loved. I will be erased from existence, only my dead body and my soul will remain.Let us be lazy in everything, except in loving and drinking, except in being lazy – LessingComment
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Aren't you a commie? Would you care to explain the difference between you and someone that believes in Father Christmas?Originally posted by Provost Harrison
How can one respect someone who believes in fairy tales?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Wrong.Originally posted by Jon Miller
I am talking about it from a scientific perspective. If you have no information (no experimental evidence) on the possible results, then every result is equally probable.Comment
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Yeah, I always laugh at those commies...Originally posted by Provost Harrison
How can one respect someone who believes in fairy tales?
edit: DD made this pointComment
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Because religion isn't a fairy tale.Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Not answered though, why should I respect someone more for religion than someone who believes in fairy tales?Comment
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I don't particularly respect him or his beliefs.Originally posted by Elok
Fair enough. I think that's how most of us treat you, after all.Comment
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Nope.Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Wrong.
JMJon Miller-
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GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.Comment
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Yep.Originally posted by Jon Miller
Nope.
JM
Simplest example: you have a coin. You don't know if it's fair, or what the probabilities are if it's not fair.
Your set of outcomes is {H,T}. Your set of observable events is {null,H,T,{H,T}}. Your measure is... what? It's undefined. You don't even know the probability of it being a particular measure (e.g. 50/50 or 20/80). So how the **** do you decide "I don't know what it is, therefore it's 50/50"?Comment
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But I am talking about how it is refered to in science.
Not the definition of probability in mathematics. I am well aware of what that is.
I clarified myself pages ago.
JMJon Miller-
I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.Comment
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Does this magical "scientific probability" somehow behave differently from the mathematical theory? Can I use this special probability in a casino?Originally posted by Jon Miller
But I am talking about how it is refered to in science.
Not the definition of probability in mathematics. I am well aware of what that is.
I clarified myself pages ago.
JMComment
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If I had two envelopes, and I told that one of them had some amount of money in it (I don't tell you which one, or how much), and that the other has twice that much, and you open one, what's the probability that the other has twice as much money or half as much?Comment
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