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  • From the NYT:

    Luis Gonzalez, 23, was one of several construction workers and others viewing plans for renovating an apartment in the Belaire when they looked out the window and saw a plane headed their way.

    “It was coming right at us, directly at us at the floor where we were working on,” he said.

    They could see the pilot’s face, he said, and then they saw the plane veering toward the right, as if the pilot was trying to avoid hitting them.
    Rob Miranda, a carpenter also working in the building, was on the 46th floor and said the plane appeared to be wobbling as it approached.

    “He was out of control,” Mr. Miranda said. “He was on an incline, accelerating as he passed. Then he hooked around the corner, he hit the north side of the building, and you heard a tremendous explosion.”
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    • Originally posted by Winston
      Yes, it would seem that way. But I can't really help that, now can I?
      Unbelievable!

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      • By the way, who here has read The Running Man by Stephen King, and do you recall the ending?

        Did Lidle read it inbetween innings? And, crucially, did he manage to finish it?

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        • Incidently, who here has read The Da Vinci Code?

          What are the odds that Lidle was looking into things he shouldn't have been and was... removed from play by the powers that be?
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          • Slightly higher than the odds of him being on a suicide mission.
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            • Indeed.

              And furthermore, I've heard a rumour from a friend of a friend, no names, but apparently Lidle was also near the truth about Roswell.

              That right there ensures that he was rubbed out.
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              • I have to agree that parts of this discussion are starting to look a bit tragic by now.

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                • you people think he crashed because he was reading a book while piloting the plane?
                  I need a foot massage

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                  • No, I think that Steinbrenner got on the radio and told him about his parentage. Just wait, the tapes will be out soon. Cory, I am your father.

                    That would sure make me crash into a building.
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                    • Originally posted by Winston
                      You have to admit the point of impact looks rather targeted...
                      You obviously never saw Lidle pitch.
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                      • Originally posted by notyoueither
                        No, I think that Steinbrenner got on the radio and told him about his parentage. Just wait, the tapes will be out soon. Cory, I am your father.

                        That would sure make me crash into a building.
                        That would have made him Judas Demon's brother - even worse.
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                        • Anthony Francavilla was working on the 28th floor of a building on 72nd Street on Manhattan's Upper East Side when he heard an engine splutter three times. "You could tell it was really straining," he said.

                          The aircraft flew past one building, he said, and it looked as thought the pilot was trying to turn towards the river when it hit the 30th floor of the Belaire residential and hospital building across the street. No one was in the apartments that took the direct hit, but one couple ran for their lives when debris came through their window.


                          Can we abandon this silly conspiracy theory, Winston?
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                          • More than 12 hours ago, Mr. Instigator.

                            Originally posted by Winston
                            I have to agree that parts of this discussion are starting to look a bit tragic by now.
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                            • The thing that gets me is I can;t figure out a possible explanation for the accident.

                              It wasn't turburlence or windshear, because these create vertical incidents.

                              The plane apparently made a hard 90 degree turn.

                              If the plane stalled, it would simply go straight down.

                              It might spiral or spin, but that would create a circular turn.

                              The aircraft was in uncontrolled airspace, which means below 1,100 feet. Cloud cover was 1,800 feet so clouds were not a factor and the pilot would have been flying using visual flight rules.

                              If there was engine failure, why didn't the pilot ditch in the river. Even if the aircraft turns inland, it should still have momentum, lift and control to avoid buildings. I can see clipping the side of a building, but not flying directly into it.

                              The only possible reason I can see is that the plane makes the turn, and then an aelieron cable snaps and the plane can make significant turns, accept through the rudder which might not have been enough in such a tight space. But why the turn inland?

                              Very perplexing.
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