The Confederate Flag and NASCAR

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Winston
I think there's an undercurrent of bigotry in assuming that whites asking to be seated separtely must be viewed with more suspicion than blacks doing the same thing.

It's not that it has to be, it's that our natural reaction is to do so given the historical and cultural context.

[Nubclear]

I think the only losers here are teh whites. Oh, the injustice of it all!

[Winston]

And chegitz guevara, you can cut the insinuations now. First you're snidely suggesting I'm totally uninformed, now that I'm not a decent person in the face of racism.

Thank you.

I frequently stop to think that I don't like this side of your posting personality at all, whether you apply it to me, or others.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Winston
You lose.

No, he doesn't. You just seem congenitally incapable of understanding a very disgusting part of our history that we still have yet to come to terms with. We're still muddling through this, trying to figure out how to overcome it, and the legacy of it. Our emotions are still raw, and some people are hurt worse than others. As empathetic beings we more horrified by greater harm than lesser harm. To wit, Black people are more injured emotionally by whites being racist towards them than vice versa. It's the difference between punching someone and punching them on a broken arm. The action is the same in both cases, but the effect is clearly more harmful in the latter.

As far as what I was or was not snidely insinuating, I didn't engage in any deliberate snideness until the previous paragraph. However, when you display such a callous disregard of our history and pain, its hard to keep emotions in check.

[Nubclear]

Even Che is a member of the Grand Black Kabal to Oppress the White Nation When will it end? WHEN WILL YOU LET OUR PEOPLE GO, CHE?

[Winston]

No, I think chegitz guevara is just a generally unpleasant person when he's being opposed.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Winston
No, I think chegitz guevara is just a generally unpleasant person when he's being opposed.

No, it's just personal between me and you. You write as though you hold me in contempt and I'm more than happy to return the opinion.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

at the risk of pissing most of you off, the flying of a flag has no more regard to racism as flying a kite. The ideas of this racism lies inthe heads of who it is taught to and is held on to by those people. Racism as i see it will always exist and it has nothing to do with the color of ones skin anymore. I have heard it cried cause of education and inteligence, to standing in the community. The ideology of real racism i think has been left in the hands of the handful of ignorant groups of all colors shapes and sizes.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

all in all the confederate flag is a part of souther US history and really has nothing to do with racism. It is the ignorant groups that adopt these things that associate things liek this with their groups that practice some of these things. Doesnt make it true!

[Kuciwalker]

all in all the confederate flag is a part of souther US history and really has nothing to do with racism

Self-contradiction in a single sentence

[Mrs. Tuberski]

maybe but it is still the truth. racism is all in the eyes of the racisnt NO? Most folks here with the conferderate flag believe its all against black folks which has been mentioned here. Slavery i think is a bit different then todays racism.

[SlowwHand]

No, it's not. Northerners insist on playing the race card.

[Patroklos]

was founded on the premise that enslavement of blacks was a moral good.

It was one of many tenants, but I suppose that is what the US was founded on to. All that other stuff was also just meaningless semantics.

I am so glad Tass and Che as mind readers and can instantly tell the internal motivations of millions of people on a whim. Thanks for telling me what I was thinking guys, as I guess you are a better judge than me!

And Che, Tass, Mr Fun automatically lose for bringing up Nazis, even if it was in a completely inappropriate comparison.

[Patroklos]

Most folks here with the conferderate flag believe its all against black folks which has been mentioned here. Slavery i think is a bit different then todays racism.

Most people I see with it are drunk frat boys using it for regional pride, especially since it gets the liberal Yanks panties into a bunch, a seen here.

[SlowwHand]

No slaves anywhere now. What will be your supposition for the next time?