World Football Thread XIII - to Berlin

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Colon™
BTW, checking Wiki, I noticed 10 Italian players managed to score at least once on this WC. The fact that their goals were so dispersed, rather than relying on one or 2 goal-getters, is a testimony to their collective strength.

Indeed they had the best 'team' and I'm glad that players like Gattuso, Buffon, Cannavaro, Pirlo got their hands on the hardware, but, unfortunately Materazzi and De Rossi ruin the squad's reputation.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

YOSSARIAN LIVES!

[MikeH]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
When does the Premier League start, Mike?

19th August is the first match.

[Gangerolf]

Originally posted by reds4ever
Did they use video at the time of the game to make the decision?

ok so I didn't read the rest of the thread. but no, they didn't use video. the assistant referee saw it and informed the ref

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


Did you watch the game with Spain and Portugal? Zidane's MF generalship was a big reason France moved onwards.

I did. The Portugal game was painful to watch, and marshalling your team to a 1-0 win over a team that didn't deserve to be there was no big feat. And Ribery was a larger influence in the Spain game, which France wouldn't have won if not for Henry's disgusting dive.

Regardless, someone who picked up two yellow cards in the group stage (and was suspended for the only game France won in the group stage), and a red card for the foul of the World Cup didn't deserve the award over Cannavaro, who played every single minute of the tournament, and conceded only two goals, neither of which he could have done anything about.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Italy with Cannavaro gets to the Semis if not the Final. France without Zidane loses to Spain (after all, after Henry's dive, who served the ball in for the goal?)

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Gangerolf


ok so I didn't read the rest of the thread. but no, they didn't use video. the assistant referee saw it and informed the ref

Yes they did.

Both assistant refs (those who watch the sidelines) didn't see it. The one who saw it was the 4th ref, on the video.

[alva]

That was my impression too, it took for too long otherwise.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by LordShiva
And Ribery was a larger influence in the Spain game, which France wouldn't have won if not for Henry's disgusting dive.

Henry was fouled. The freekick was legit. The goal was legit. There was no dive.

Henry was wrong to clutch his face, but clutching your face when you've been fouled in the chest is not a dive. It's wrong, but not a dive.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

yeah, henri got clipped good.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Cort Haus
Henry was fouled. The freekick was legit. The goal was legit. There was no dive.

Henry was wrong to clutch his face, but clutching your face when you've been fouled in the chest is not a dive. It's wrong, but not a dive.

Technically you are correct, but it appears to me that 'dive' has also taken on embellishing injury or fouls in order to get a call. I do agree he was fouled, however.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

what about zidane's headbutt?!

Les meilleurs sont toujours les premiers à partir.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
Les meilleurs sont toujours les premiers à partir.

Like Michael Owen?

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


Technically you are correct, but it appears to me that 'dive' has also taken on embellishing injury or fouls in order to get a call. I do agree he was fouled, however.

Perhaps we need a sin of 'embellishment' to distinguish it from its more serious sibling-sin of 'diving'.

[Gangerolf]

Originally posted by Spiffor

Yes they did.

Both assistant refs (those who watch the sidelines) didn't see it. The one who saw it was the 4th ref, on the video.

yes, 4th ref, that's what I meant. but has it been confirmed that he saw it on video? No...? The 4th ref can't stop the game, he can only get the ref's attenion during halts in the game, hence the delay to hand out the red card.
well we'll see