End of Moussaoui trial may destroy Bush administration

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
They cared enough to release one tape but not the rest. Weird huh.


So no Occam's Razor and until you interview them and find out that's really their intentions, don't think so.

Possibility 1: Decisions of government officials from the myriad of different federal agencies are sometimes inconsistent or illogical.

Possibility 2: The government is trying to cover up something that happened on 9/11 that they don't want us to know, some terrible secret that has just sat there for four and a half years.

Yeah, I think Occam still holds.

[Ted Striker]

Except it's really only the FBI that's holding the tapes.

[Al'Kimiya]

At the risk of being on-topic. I'm no conspiracy theorist, although I like to keep an open mind. Thus not dismissing information that doesn't fit into my "reality-tunnel" or paradigm out of hand.

It will always be in the interest of those with "something to hide" to keep the masses ignorant and resort to childish name-calling or other personal insults and divert from topic, when the implications of what being said is, in fact, challenging a world-view they have invested much emotion into.

About 9/11, I don't pretend to conduct any original research, my opinion, let it be labeled as "undecided", is based on other people's spin, not necessarily that of the prominent media or real life-acquaintances.

I just wanted to take the opportunity to, for those like myself, that still keeps an open mind, post a link to a list of "smoking guns on 911", that I guess few has bothered to do. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, just put out the facts.

And no, I'm not a "liberal", nor do I believe in the left-right paradigm.

http://killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html

I'm sure many of these can be explained by non-biased "experts", but shouldn't they all be? The rhetoric of focusing on just one issue, like the grainy images of whatever hit the Pentagon diverts from the long list of "coincidences" in the link above and I'm sure presented in other forms on many other places.

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Al'Kimiya
At the risk of being on-topic. I'm no conspiracy theorist, although I like to keep an open mind. Thus not dismissing information that doesn't fit into my "reality-tunnel" or paradigm out of hand.

It will always be in the interest of those with "something to hide" to keep the masses ignorant and resort to childish name-calling or other personal insults and divert from topic, when the implications of what being said is, in fact, challenging a world-view they have invested much emotion into.

About 9/11, I don't pretend to conduct any original research, my opinion, let it be labeled as "undecided", is based on other people's spin, not necessarily that of the prominent media or real life-acquaintances.

I just wanted to take the opportunity to, for those like myself, that still keeps an open mind, post a link to a list of "smoking guns on 911", that I guess few has bothered to do. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, just put out the facts.

And no, I'm not a "liberal", nor do I believe in the left-right paradigm.

http://killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html

I'm sure many of these can be explained by non-biased "experts", but shouldn't they all be? The rhetoric of focusing on just one issue, like the grainy images of whatever hit the Pentagon diverts from the long list of "coincidences" in the link above and I'm sure presented in other forms on many other places.

Awesome post

Course now that I put a thumbs up they are more likely to dismiss it, sorry bout that I should have just left it be.

[DinoDoc]

Where is Barbara Olson, Al'Kimiya?

[MRT144]

even if there was a conspiracy what are you *****mades gonna do about it? nothing and like it!

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Where is Barbara Olson, Al'Kimiya?

Where is Barbara Olson, Dinodoc ?


peekaboo!!! yay I'm clever !

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by Al'Kimiya
At the risk of being on-topic. I'm no conspiracy theorist, although I like to keep an open mind. Thus not dismissing information that doesn't fit into my "reality-tunnel" or paradigm out of hand.

It will always be in the interest of those with "something to hide" to keep the masses ignorant and resort to childish name-calling or other personal insults and divert from topic, when the implications of what being said is, in fact, challenging a world-view they have invested much emotion into.

I have something to hide so I resort to childish name calling.


I should introduce myself that way. I'll walk up people and say "Hi, my name is Jag, I have something to hide so I resort to childish name calling."

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
Where is Barbara Olson, Dinodoc ?

I'm not the one indulging outlandish conspiracy theories. Is it that hard to answer the question, Ted?

[Ted Striker]

Oh that was an actual question ?

[Slaughtermeyer]

Originally posted by Arrian

Near-perfectly, in that they "pancaked" almost straight down. The pancaking was explained adequately enough for me: the jet fuel-fed fire weakened the steel supports and the upper floors came right down on top of the fire, starting a chain-reaction, one floor on top of another, all the way down.

What is fishy about that? It seems perfectly reasonable to me.
-Arrian

In an attempt to prop up the "pancake" theory, the NIST put together a black box computer model that would spit out the "right" answers, after the results of its own physical tests failed to support its conclusions. This black box model was driven by initial parameters that could be tweaked. When the parameters that had initially been considered “realistic” did not generate results that “compared to observed events,” NIST scientists performed their final analysis using another set of parameters they called “more severe.”[NIST, Final Report, 196] When they were finished, their model produced video graphics that would enable anyone to see the buildings collapse, without being able to determine whether the computer program driving the video had any scientific validity at all, because the program code was kept secret.

In August 2004, Underwriters Laboratories evaluated the Pancake Theory by testing models of the floor assemblies used in the WTC buildings. Despite all the previous "expert" testimony, the floor models did not collapse.

http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2006/911-WTC-NIST-Lies30mar06.htm

[Arrian]

Ok, looney-toon.

-Arrian

[oedo]

Originally posted by Slaughtermeyer
Only one of the 85 videos in the possession of the FBI have been released, which means 84 still to go.

That one video you talk about has been released in 2002 already. And there's nothing to seen on it.

http://horoscope.de/elfterseptember//html/bilder.html

[Straybow]

Originally posted by Al'Kimiya
http://killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html

1962 - US military drafted 'Operation Northwoods', a plan to commit terror acts in US cities, kill innocent Americans, hijack airplanes, and plant evidence as a way to trick the public into thinking Cuba committed an unprovoked attack against the US in order to support a war against Cuba. (ABC, Natl Security Archives)

March '00 - Filming begins for The Lone Gunmen's 'Pilot' episode that depicts a US plot to crash an electronically hijacked Boeing 727 into WTC and blame foreign terrorists to provoke war and increase military's budget (KC Star), March '01 - 'Pilot' episode airs on FOX TV, 6 months before attacks (TV Guide), Lone Gunmen co-producer hopes WTC attack wasn't 'somehow inspired' by anything they did. (KC Star)

Oh, my, I haven't had a belly laugh that good in a while!

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


Possibility 1: Decisions of government officials from the myriad of different federal agencies are sometimes inconsistent or illogical.

Possibility 2: The government is trying to cover up something that happened on 9/11 that they don't want us to know, some terrible secret that has just sat there for four and a half years.

Yeah, I think Occam still holds.

It appears that there was a conspiracy so Occams razor doesn't hold, not that it would mean anything if it did.