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  • #46
    Hmmm...revolutions are illegal? I guess we should pull down old glory and throw up a british flag. And while we are at it, let's give scotland and ireland their autonomy. As far as the post, Really ted? Because I thought the part at the beginning, about immigration papers, visas, etc, would clue you in to the illegal immigrant reference? And I'm surprised someone as astute and intelligent as yourself can't recognize the social accommodations we make in the US for Mexicans and wonder how these things would be received in Mexico without calling it racism...

    Since clearly you need this, i thought i would post it for you:

    rac·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rszm)
    n.
    The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
    Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

    the initial post, made no reference to superiority, discrimination, or exuded prejudice. It was social commentary aimed at humor. Grow up.
    "Mal nommer les choses, c'est accroître le malheur du monde" - Camus (thanks Davout)

    "I thought you must be dead ..." he said simply. "So did I for a while," said Ford, "and then I decided I was a lemon for a couple of weeks. A kept myself amused all that time jumping in and out of a gin and tonic."

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    • #47
      And I'm surprised someone as astute and intelligent as yourself can't recognize the social accommodations we make in the US for Mexicans and wonder how these things would be received in Mexico without calling it racism...


      Please explain how bilingual initiatives constitute "social accomodations," in light of the fact that English is not the official language of the United States. Please furthermore explain how it is that you know these initiatives - which could well be for any spanish-speaking person, including citizens, residents, and non-Mexicans generally - are accomodations to "Mexicans."
      Lime roots and treachery!
      "Eventually you're left with a bunch of unmemorable posters like Cyclotron, pretending that they actually know anything about who they're debating pointless crap with." - Drake Tungsten

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Kaak
        Hmmm...revolutions are illegal? I guess we should pull down old glory and throw up a british flag. And while we are at it, let's give scotland and ireland their autonomy. As far as the post, Really ted? Because I thought the part at the beginning, about immigration papers, visas, etc, would clue you in to the illegal immigrant reference? And I'm surprised someone as astute and intelligent as yourself can't recognize the social accommodations we make in the US for Mexicans and wonder how these things would be received in Mexico without calling it racism...

        Since clearly you need this, i thought i would post it for you:

        rac·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rszm)
        n.
        The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
        Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

        the initial post, made no reference to superiority, discrimination, or exuded prejudice. It was social commentary aimed at humor. Grow up.
        Good point about the revolution. Most of our entire country was founded by illegal immigrants. Except we got our land by stealing it by force and killing a bunch of people.

        And so the focus of your post was about Mexicans but it's not racist

        Grow up
        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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        • #49
          Wow...so now focusing on a group of people is racist? Did you read the definition? I posted it for you right up there. I'm sick of you uber sensative whine bags trying to turn everything racist. It's ridiculous. And I don't think that was meant to complain about bilingual initiatives, but mearly to point out that expecting such in mexico would be ummm...comical. Have you ever been to Mexico? and if so, have you ever been some where in mexico that wasn't turisty?


          You can make observations about groups of people without those observations being racist.


          by the way, I like how you tried to completely change the subject and start spouting off about illegal revolutions etc etc when your weak arguments were broken
          "Mal nommer les choses, c'est accroître le malheur du monde" - Camus (thanks Davout)

          "I thought you must be dead ..." he said simply. "So did I for a while," said Ford, "and then I decided I was a lemon for a couple of weeks. A kept myself amused all that time jumping in and out of a gin and tonic."

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          • #50
            I could care less about your stupid definition and on top of that you don't even meet the requirements of it in the first place



            Maybe you missed the "Discrimination or prejudice based on race." thing

            So you're down on both counts

            GG

            We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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            • #51
              and not to stray from the topic, but are you familiar with Social Contract and Right to Revolt and all that???
              "Mal nommer les choses, c'est accroître le malheur du monde" - Camus (thanks Davout)

              "I thought you must be dead ..." he said simply. "So did I for a while," said Ford, "and then I decided I was a lemon for a couple of weeks. A kept myself amused all that time jumping in and out of a gin and tonic."

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              • #52
                No not really, I prefer The Racial Contract, you know, for a more up to date view
                We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                • #53
                  ted come on...discriminating involves an act, like treating someone a certain way because of who they are. The initial post doesn't promote that.

                  and prejudice-
                  prej·u·dice ( P ) Pronunciation Key (prj-ds)
                  n.

                  An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.
                  A preconceived preference or idea.
                  The act or state of holding unreasonable preconceived judgments or convictions. See Synonyms at predilection.
                  Irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular group, race, or religion.
                  Detriment or injury caused to a person by the preconceived, unfavorable conviction of another or others.

                  again, the post doesn't fit the criterion. You really shouldn't so irresponsible throwing words like that around if you don't even understand what they mean.
                  "Mal nommer les choses, c'est accroître le malheur du monde" - Camus (thanks Davout)

                  "I thought you must be dead ..." he said simply. "So did I for a while," said Ford, "and then I decided I was a lemon for a couple of weeks. A kept myself amused all that time jumping in and out of a gin and tonic."

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Ted Striker
                    I could care less about your stupid definition...
                    ooo, you mean the definition from dictionary.com. I see your point. Why bother with facts or definitions of words when it is a lot more fun to just throw them around
                    "Mal nommer les choses, c'est accroître le malheur du monde" - Camus (thanks Davout)

                    "I thought you must be dead ..." he said simply. "So did I for a while," said Ford, "and then I decided I was a lemon for a couple of weeks. A kept myself amused all that time jumping in and out of a gin and tonic."

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                    • #55
                      Re: Re: USFTA - United States Federal Travel Agency

                      Originally posted by Ted Striker


                      Great list cracker
                      I also think it's classic that you, being the one playing the racist card, are the only one to have made a racial slur in this thread. Hypocritical racist whinebags
                      "Mal nommer les choses, c'est accroître le malheur du monde" - Camus (thanks Davout)

                      "I thought you must be dead ..." he said simply. "So did I for a while," said Ford, "and then I decided I was a lemon for a couple of weeks. A kept myself amused all that time jumping in and out of a gin and tonic."

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Kaak
                        ted come on...discriminating involves an act, like treating someone a certain way because of who they are. The initial post doesn't promote that.

                        and prejudice-
                        prej·u·dice ( P ) Pronunciation Key (prj-ds)
                        n.

                        An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.
                        A preconceived preference or idea.
                        The act or state of holding unreasonable preconceived judgments or convictions. See Synonyms at predilection.
                        Irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular group, race, or religion.
                        Detriment or injury caused to a person by the preconceived, unfavorable conviction of another or others.

                        again, the post doesn't fit the criterion. You really shouldn't so irresponsible throwing words like that around if you don't even understand what they mean.
                        An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts. --> CHECK

                        A preconceived preference or idea. --> CHECK

                        The act or state of holding unreasonable preconceived judgments or convictions. --> CHECK

                        Irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular group, race, --> CHECK

                        GG

                        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Kaak


                          ooo, you mean the definition from dictionary.com. I see your point. Why bother with facts or definitions of words when it is a lot more fun to just throw them around
                          The more you protest, the more you know you're guilty as charged

                          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                          • #58
                            Stop bickering and respond to my post!
                            Lime roots and treachery!
                            "Eventually you're left with a bunch of unmemorable posters like Cyclotron, pretending that they actually know anything about who they're debating pointless crap with." - Drake Tungsten

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                            • #59
                              Re: Re: Re: USFTA - United States Federal Travel Agency

                              Originally posted by Kaak


                              I also think it's classic that you, being the one playing the racist card, are the only one to have made a racial slur in this thread. Hypocritical racist whinebags

                              Yep.

                              You opened the thread on that level so don't cry when you get called out on it.

                              We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                              • #60
                                haha....right, I started with racial slurs? false.

                                As for

                                An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts. --> CHECK
                                ummm...What part of that post has no truth to it? Or are you too far removed from the problem to even know?


                                A preconceived preference or idea. --> CHECK
                                Again, nothing preconceived. The reason that is humorous is because those are all things you experience.

                                The act or state of holding unreasonable preconceived judgments or convictions. --> CHECK
                                repeated and repeatable experience kind of kills the unreasonable part of that. As for preconceived, i covered that already.

                                Irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular group, race, --> CHECK
                                There was nothing there to suggest suspicion or hatred.


                                But again, why bother with what's really posted or true when everything makes so much more sense in whatever fantasy is going on in your head.
                                "Mal nommer les choses, c'est accroître le malheur du monde" - Camus (thanks Davout)

                                "I thought you must be dead ..." he said simply. "So did I for a while," said Ford, "and then I decided I was a lemon for a couple of weeks. A kept myself amused all that time jumping in and out of a gin and tonic."

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