Actually, I have to admit thinking that Martin would do a better job then Chretien for the same reason as Flubber.
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This said, they seem to be doing quite well, with a balanced budget and 3.6% projected growth.
It's about 25% of our provincial GDP, which is not unreasonable, but still higher then we'd like.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
As opposed to British Columbia?
Interesting, the numbers I get are 30 billion in total revenue and about 2 billion of that in resource revenue. We have lots of resources, offshore oil and the like, the problem is that Alberta makes better use of them then we do.
I don't see why BC can't eliminate their debt and their sales tax.
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Oil, currently, is far more lucrative than any other resource BC could exploit, and it's far cheaper, easier and faster to develop that on land than offshore. I will, however, agree with you that BC should more actively explore the possibility of offshore drilling."The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
As opposed to British Columbia?
We have lots of resources, offshore oil and the like,
AS for offshore oil, there has not even been exploration permitted for years and years so while the area is considered prospective, they really have no idea what might be out thereYou don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
As opposed to British Columbia?
Interesting, the numbers I get are 30 billion in total revenue and about 2 billion of that in resource revenue. We have lots of resources, offshore oil and the like, the problem is that Alberta makes better use of them then we do.
I don't see why BC can't eliminate their debt and their sales tax.
Do you actually think that BC has the same amount of oil as Alberta? Do you think that BC can generate revenue from its resources that Alberta gets from its oil?
Alberta has a luxury that most provinces, states and countries do not have.
The idea that cutting taxes will automatically generate economic growth is a dangerous myth. It was proven wrong 80 years ago and governments that have tried it have routinely created more problems.
Look at the "Liberals" in BC. They gave massive tax cuts to the rich and all that it did was create a massive, record breaking deficit.
People tend to think that high costs always leads to a shrinking economy, but that is not the case. The major cities that are the most prosperous tend to be places where the cost of doing business is high.
The problem with BC is that it has failed to attract and keep outside investment and failed to keep its entreprenuers, particularly immigrants with business expertise.
EDIT: Three of us posting the same concept at about the same timeLast edited by Tingkai; January 26, 2006, 13:53.Golfing since 67
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Originally posted by Kontiki
Oil, currently, is far more lucrative than any other resource BC could exploit,
Originally posted by Kontiki
and it's far cheaper, easier and faster to develop that on land than offshore.
Offshore east coast the timing has been more in the range of dozens of years. The reality is that after a discovery, you likely need several more wells to ensure the discovery is of sufficient size to warrant building a multi-billion dollar facility. Offshore BC should be cheaper
Originally posted by Kontiki
I will, however, agree with you that BC should more actively explore the possibility of offshore drilling.
Even if they were willing to grant drilling authorizations, the feds could tie things up for years.
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Not to mention the environmental concerns which tend to be much louder in BC than anywhere else in Canada."The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
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Not sure where you get your numbers from, because mine are straight from the government.
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Oil, currently, is far more lucrative than any other resource BC could exploit, and it's far cheaper, easier and faster to develop that on land than offshore. I will, however, agree with you that BC should more actively explore the possibility of offshore drilling.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Do you actually think that BC has the same amount of oil as Alberta? Do you think that BC can generate revenue from its resources that Alberta gets from its oil?
The idea that cutting taxes will automatically generate economic growth is a dangerous myth. It was proven wrong 80 years ago and governments that have tried it have routinely created more problems.
Look at the "Liberals" in BC. They gave massive tax cuts to the rich and all that it did was create a massive, record breaking deficit.
People tend to think that high costs always leads to a shrinking economy, but that is not the case. The major cities that are the most prosperous tend to be places where the cost of doing business is high.
I look at my town which has great difficulty sustaining a public transit system, as compared to Vancouver. Services are greater where the population and tax base more then compensates for these services. If the town taxes it's base heavier then other towns, then that town will lose a competitive advantage.
The problem with BC is that it has failed to attract and keep outside investment and failed to keep its entreprenuers, particularly immigrants with business expertise.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Also true-- An onshore find can come into production in days after it is discovered (oil being trucked) or a little longer for gas if there is a nearby pipeline.
Offshore east coast the timing has been more in the range of dozens of years. The reality is that after a discovery, you likely need several more wells to ensure the discovery is of sufficient size to warrant building a multi-billion dollar facility. Offshore BC should be cheaper
The first thing that needs to be killed is the oil and gas moratorium.
Their biggest problem is that much of the area would be federal jurisdiction when it comes to ownership and ALL of the offshore would be subject to significant federal regulatory overview. The result is that BC can do very little alone.
Even if they were willing to grant drilling authorizations, the feds could tie things up for years.
Add in issues related to native consultation and OUCH !!!Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Conservatives' changes no big deal
Jan. 24, 2006. 01:00 AM
RICHARD GWYN
The single biggest change Stephen Harper will implement as Prime Minister now that the election is over will be to take steps to ensure that Canadians have less to do with each other.
Devolution of a sizeable slice of federal revenues to the provinces (to cure the so-called "fiscal deficit"), as well as a general contraction of Ottawa's activities so that it has less and less to do with domestic affairs, constitutes the entirely open agenda that the Conservatives bring with them to office.
As far as most Canadians will be concerned, their real government will henceforth be their provincial government with the federal government performing more and more of a symbolic role, respected but remote, a bit like the Governor General.
This sounds like a pretty dramatic change. Many commentators are already lamenting the impending irrelevance of Ottawa and therefore of a hole appearing in our national centre.
The intriguing fact about this change is that it's actually so small.
The first reason why it's no big deal is that it's just about happened already. The Canada of today is already the most decentralized nation-state in the world (Switzerland might be more so, though I doubt it). In no other country does the central government account for so small a share of total government spending. We are the only country with no national dimension to our education system.
Quebec has already achieved sovereignty-association. It's hard to think of anything Quebec cannot now do as a mere province that it would need to be a fully independent nation to accomplish — other than send an ambassador to the United Nations to deliver speeches that no one would listen to.
For a post-modern state of the kind Canada has been for some time now, accommodating governmental illogicalities of this sort are a snap, not least because we're so marvellously adept at pretending nothing has changed.
The second reason why Harper's planned "revolution" in federal-provincial relations will be a minor hiccup is much the more interesting one.
It turns out that having less and less to do with each other outside of our provincial baronies does not in any way move us further apart from each other, nor make us more different from each other.
Consider again Quebec. At the very moment that Quebecers have become virtually sovereign, they have never been more like other Canadians. They are almost now more typically Canadian than the rest of us — more liberal, more social democrat, more opposed to the Iraq war, more supportive of same-sex marriages, and the rest of those lovingly-claimed "Canadian values."
Alberta is useful as an illustration. Premier Ralph Klein constantly blames Ottawa for preventing him from experimenting with two-tier medicine. In fact, Alberta has all the money it needs to ignore any tut-tutting by Ottawa. The reason Klein only ever talks rather than walks the medicare reform walk is because his own Albertans favour one-tier medicine little differently from those "semi-socialist" Ontarians and the others.
Our provincially run education systems illustrate the same point. All are free to follow wholly different curriculums and pedagogical practices. But they are all strikingly similar, even Quebec's once distinctive system increasingly resembling those everywhere else.
Canadians, this is to say, are very Canadian. To all be free to be as different as we want and yet be so alike in our values and habits and attitudes is surely as post-modern as it's possible to get.
Our real two solitudes now are Confederation, which almost everyone complains about, and Canadianism, which everyone thinks is grand. That they are actually one and the same is an incidental, post-modern detail.
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Richard Gwyn's column appears Tuesdays and Fridays. gwynR@sympatico.ca
Rather wow at the prospect of a Liberal party organ spokesman accepting reality.
Perhaps it is a honeymoon, but I am detecting a willingness to look at alternatives to more of the same old Liberal formulae.(\__/)
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