PowerBook is dead; MacBook Pro is here (Intel-based)

[Apocalypse]

My Dell can get over 5 hours....

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Last Conformist
That's a question you should ask yourself.

What a witty comeback. I can't believe that's the best you can do.

You've made it to my ignore list.

[Last Conformist]

I suppose I should feel honoured.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Agathon


What a witty comeback. I can't believe that's the best you can do.

You've made it to my ignore list.

if you can't then you shouldn't ignore him, to see if he can do better.

The logic of philosphers.

JM

[Last Conformist]

Remarkable as it may sound, I'm not here to amuse Aggie. But I suppose the way he gets riled up whenever anyone disses Apple is cute.

[Whaleboy]

My Dell can get over 5 hours....

You test battery life by disconnecting it from the power supply

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Jon Miller


if you can't then you shouldn't ignore him, to see if he can do better.

The logic of philosphers.

JM

I just find him to be a tiresome and unoriginal troll. The ignore list is the best place for him.

On topic..

[Whaleboy]

[Asher]

Originally posted by Whaleboy
Five and a half hours?

Show me a Thinkpad that can top that!

My T40 from August 2003 does over 8 hours...

[Asher]

http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/accessories/battery/alldaycomputing.html

The latest T-series ThinkPads have 9 hour battery lives.

The Z-series ThinkPads have 8-8.5 hour battery lives.

The X-series ThinkPads have 10-10.1 hour battery lives.

The 5.5 hours on the new Apple laptops show how far they are behind IBM/Lenovo in terms of efficient design.

[Q Classic]

Originally posted by Rasbelin
Wrong. Plus this is a very narrowminded opinion, IMO. First and foremost Nintendo is #1 in terms of handheld game consoles.

I'm not really referring to the hand held market.

That being killing off some sparetime while sitting on a train or so.

There's always... a book. Or ball-in-a-cup, Mexico's favorite children's pasttime for the past 300 years!

Other than that, indeed they've lost ground especially to the Xbox and Xbox 360. Unlike how Sega is gone from the console manufacturing business, I wouldn't expect this to happen with Nintendo. They might be late with the newest wave of consoles, but they have something (Nintendo Revolution) coming up that can hopefully grab some market share. Also you need to remember Nintendo has cash to spend and they have the experience. I don't expect anything magic to happen, but not at least them phasing out from the console business.

Yak yak yak yak. I hear fanboi.

I don't particularly care about console games anymore. In fact, I don't particularly care about the market all that much. I'll say this--HD gaming looks damn pretty, and the fact that the Revolution will a) not have it, and b) not be able to support blu-ray/hd-dvd means that I'm disappointed. That, and I'm not following them on the controller.

But to take this even further, I don't really care. I don't care what Nintendo has in the bank, I don't care what their newest system is going to be. I don't see them being that revolutionary, hardware-wise. I just want to be able to play Metroid on something that's not... crap, on a controller that's not... crap.

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Going back to the original point, I honestly want to see Apple kick out of the hardware business, largely because they're no longer pushing new hardware technologies; the x86 transition merely turns them into the Jaguar of the x86 world (in all senses--I fully expect to see quality issues, and the problem is that now they're on the same basic system... the only difference is hipster design (which I getting fed up with, largely due to hipsters) and the software (which I think has a market outside of the hardware).)

Apple, imho, would do better as a consumer electronics company--sleeker than Sony or Samsung, and being the near-Microsoft of online media distribution... well, you don't quite need a specific type computer for that.

[Q Classic]

Originally posted by Asher

http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/accessories/battery/alldaycomputing.html

The latest T-series ThinkPads have 9 hour battery lives.

The Z-series ThinkPads have 8-8.5 hour battery lives.

The X-series ThinkPads have 10-10.1 hour battery lives.

The 5.5 hours on the new Apple laptops show how far they are behind IBM/Lenovo in terms of efficient design.

Asher, what have I said about bringing facts into a debate?

I'm giving you five minutes in the penalty box for your rhetoric-less infraction.

[Agathon]

Apple, imho, would do better as a consumer electronics company--sleeker than Sony or Samsung, and being the near-Microsoft of online media distribution... well, you don't quite need a specific type computer for that.

They are already doing that. I think Apple is now bigger than Sony... I'm not sure (I remember reading that in a paper somewhere and being sceptical). They will pass Dell soon, and HP isn't that far off. If this year is even half as successful as last year, they will do it.

As I've said before: it might be nice for Apple to get out of the hardware business, but they aren't going to any time soon. It's ingrained in their culture and it currently doesn't make financial sense for them to do it. In fact it doesn't make sense for them not to continue what they are doing: the stock has been an exceptional investment for long term owners.

Another thing: Apple is somewhat of a relic. Remember Commodore, Atari and Amstrad and all those other computer makers who did "the whole thing". I may be mistaken, but I think Apple is the sole survivor.

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Reliable sources say that a lot of new stuff wasn't demoed at MacWorld because Intel could not supply the chips. That would explain the somewhat lacklustre keynote this year.

[Asher]

They are already doing that. I think Apple is now bigger than Sony... I'm not sure (I remember reading that in a paper somewhere and being sceptical).

Sony Revenue: $62.11B
Apple Revenue: $13.93B

Market cap doesn't determine how large a company is. Especially when the stock is overvalued.

[Agathon]

Q3... I reckon it is weird that you discount aesthetics when it comes to technology. Do you hate art or something?

Apart from a few disasters, like the Flower Power iMac, Apple's machines in recent years have been wonderful art objects, and OS X is just wonderful to look at. The Cube in particular was an awesome machine. I'd love to get an old one and bang in an upgrade kit.

So what if a house is just to live in. I'd rather have one designed by Frank Lloyd Wright than a prefab (I think that is a pretty good comparison, although Apple's machines are a lot more reliable than Wright's buildings).

Apple's design team just seems to have a lot better taste than say, for example, HP. It's a pretty neat trick to make something both rarefied and minimalist and at the same time friendly and accessible. Not many designers can pull that off.