Why Protestant and Jewish Families Rule the Earth

[Flip McWho]

Ok, so you're comparing south korea and north korea and saying the difference is Gods will? Maniac.

[Berzerker]

Therefore, I judge you as a reprobate, and yes I am indeed allowed to judge, for the Bible calls all of the saints to judge- and to judge wisely and based on the works of the person they are judging.

didn't you say works is a false doctrine?

Finally, you despise the Word of God and the proofs I have quoted to you.

You said God created the universe and Genesis doesn't say that. What is that proof of?

[Philosophiser]

Originally posted by Berzerker


didn't you say works is a false doctrine?



You said God created the universe and Genesis doesn't say that. What is that proof of?

No you misunderstood. Making works the basis of justification is a false doctrine. Faith is the foundation of justification. The minute you believe is the minute you are justified. So in that sense justification is by faith alone. But works are always a part of faith because the Holy Spirit transforms the heart of every believer. Therefore works inevitably enter the picture, proving that the believer's faith is genuine, and increasing his justification before God.

This is different from the Roman Catholic gospel- which teaches that obedience to the law and works are a foundation of justification, and that you can be damned even if you have faith.

[Philosophiser]

Originally posted by Flip McWho
Ok, so you're comparing south korea and north korea and saying the difference is Gods will? Maniac.

You bet. Everything is God's will or it wouldn't happen.

[Pyrodrew]

Philosophizzer, are you still contemplating my questions? I'm beginning to have my doubts that you take the GoldenRule seriously, but if you just need more time to think that's fine.

[Odin]

Fundies always forget the context of the time the NT was codified, and forget that what eventually ended up in the NT had more to do with church politics than theology (which is why the gospel of St. Thomas got cut). The crazies who say the bible is the inerrant word of God miss that inconvenient fact.

[Flip McWho]

Everything is God's will or it wouldn't happen.

Ok. So it was Gods will that adam ate the apple? So it was Gods will that we fell from grace in the first place?

[Barnabas]

Dont jews feel uncomfortable with being supported mainly by protestants with wacky beliefs?

[Flip McWho]

Heres another question for you philosophiser;

Why don't you believe in the book of mormon and follow that as well? Afterall thats another testament of our lord and saviour Jesus Christ.

[Dinner]

Because he's been feed lies from birth that Mormons are evil and going to hell just like he's said about Catholics.

More interesting would be to see what he thinks of other Protestant groups like Lutherans or something further a field (yet closer to the teachings of the early church) like Eastern Orthodoxy or even the Asyyrian or Coptic churches.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Flip McWho
Ok, so you're comparing south korea and north korea and saying the difference is Gods will? Maniac.

It's easy to do once you learn to ignore all thought, causality, and reason.

[Flip McWho]

They don't though.

Thought: continously about God
Causality: God did it
Reason: Gods will

[Seeker]

Christianity is still not the majority religion in SK. And Catholics are a large chunk of that minority. And many SK Christians also believe in Buddhism and 'Traditional Korean Beliefs'. Remember is you add up the percentages of believers in korea you get something like 180% which means that most people, like japan, hold multiple contradictory beliefs.

I've seen Pentacostal mothers teachering their sons the story of Tanggun as history, and even Kim Jong-Il uses and believes in traditional korean beliefs about divine mountains, etc.

Korean Christianity, although they themselves would deny this, is as or more syncretic than African Christianity. After all, the Mudang (traditional korean shamans) are still in big business (10% of korean are shamanists) and 'christians' go to see them, I've seen the '8 lucky Immortals' of the Chinese Classics hung from walls right beside the cross.

[Philosophiser]

Originally posted by Seeker
Christianity is still not the majority religion in SK. And Catholics are a large chunk of that minority. And many SK Christians also believe in Buddhism and 'Traditional Korean Beliefs'. Remember is you add up the percentages of believers in korea you get something like 180% which means that most people, like japan, hold multiple contradictory beliefs.

I've seen Pentacostal mothers teachering their sons the story of Tanggun as history, and even Kim Jong-Il uses and believes in traditional korean beliefs about divine mountains, etc.

Korean Christianity, although they themselves would deny this, is as or more syncretic than African Christianity. After all, the Mudang (traditional korean shamans) are still in big business (10% of korean are shamanists) and 'christians' go to see them, I've seen the '8 lucky Immortals' of the Chinese Classics hung from walls right beside the cross.

Yes there still much work to be done no doubt.

[Philosophiser]

Originally posted by Pyrodrew
Philosophizzer, are you still contemplating my questions? I'm beginning to have my doubts that you take the GoldenRule seriously, but if you just need more time to think that's fine.

Already answered... look above.