What is it about Macedonian flags?

[OzzyKP]

Re: Re: What is it about Macedonian flags?

Originally posted by lord of the mark
I like my response better

I think I may have to move across the river just so I can have the privilege of living in FUKCOV.

[Kuciwalker]

[Namaste]

Really? It's the exact same flag, color and proportion and everything?

Actually, it's not exactly the same flag. The Vergina sun was the central element in both, but the proportions and colors were different.

Greek Macedonia: (not sure if the exact design of this flag has any official status, but Vergina Sun on blue background does)

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/g/gr-thess.gif

Old flag of Republic of Macedonia/FYROM/Skopje/Ok:

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/m/mk_1992.gif

The dispute was over the use of the Vergina Sun.

[OzzyKP]

The new flag is much cooler anyhow.

[Cyclotron]

Personally, I liked the old one.

So, it seems I would get my ass beat in Greek Macedonia with that hat of mine.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Cyclotron
Well, obviously. But I would assume that border guards of FYROM/Macedonia would stamp in such a way that the Greeks would let people through. Heck, in most european countries I've been to, it doesn't even say the name of the country on the stamp.

They never stamped or looked at anything when I crossed from Macdonia to Greece. Of course I was in an official NATO military vehicle and we don't have to stop for little things like customs checks.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Cyclotron
Personally, I liked the old one.

So, it seems I would get my ass beat in Greek Macedonia with that hat of mine.

Believe it or not I was actually thinking about that subject on my way home yesterday. I wasn't sure if you had a hat with the Sun of Vergina (so no problem) or with the Sun of Vergina in royal red background (the old flag of FYROM).
The last decade the symbology went like this: Sun of Vergina on red background = FYROM. Sun of Vergina in blue background = Greek.

So if you went around in (Greek) Macedonia with a sun of vergina in red background and probably the word macedonia in latin alphabet, yeah, you would get angry stares. especially now that the name issue is again flared up due to nimic (UN responsible) proposals.

But you figured it out for yourself so no problem!

Also, it is best to say "FYROM" or even better "Skopia" when refering to FYROM when you are in (Greek) Macedonia.

Generally it is wise to be sensitive to other peoples' sensitivities espesially when meeting them in real life.

[Kuciwalker]

Unless, of course, you find their reactions amusing.

[Az]

Generally "people's sensibilities" ( usually PC in these cases of people being *******s" bring out exactly the opposite reaction from me.

Big Israeli flag
Big Macedonian Red and yellow in greece

[Cyclotron]

Israeli flag? What will happen to me if I do that?

Unfortunately, my nationalist Macedonian paraphenalia - which is, by the way, the actual macendonian design with the red background - is all in another country currently. I will have no chance to bring it.

[Mercator]

Originally posted by Bereta_Eder
conventional long form: Republic of Macedonia

wrong. It is The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia


conventional short form: Macedonia; note - the

wrong: it is FYROM

CIA World Factbook - Notes and Definitions
This entry includes all forms of the country's name approved by the US Board on Geographic Names (...)

So you're wrong, they're right. You just forgot to read the small print. And they're nice enough to mention the international convention as well.

local long form: Republika Makedonija

correct. But it should write: constitutional name (not local)

local short form: Makedonija

again it should write constitutional (as this country is refered to in its constitution)

Constitutional? Why ever should they add that? It's what they use locally. Whether that is constitutional or not is irrelevant. Macedonians call it Makedonija I presume, that sounds pretty local to me.

former: People's Republic of Macedonia, Socialist Republic of Macedonia

incorrect. it had never had the status of independent country.

You forget that Yugoslavia was a federation, so Macedonia did exist as a People's/Socialist Republic, just like they mention with Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia and Slovenia too. Not to mention all the former Soviet Republics.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Mercator
So you're wrong, they're right. You just forgot to read the small print. And they're nice enough to mention the international convention as well.

Nice as a rakoon arse. But you're right and everyone should read the small print.


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Constitutional? Why ever should they add that?

Don't get excited. This is the correct form to be written in. COnstitutional. As refered to in the contitution. Don't forger that the offical name of this country in external relations is FYROM. Writing "local" smells of cow **** apart from being incorrect formally.

You forget that Yugoslavia was a federation, so Macedonia did exist as a People's/Socialist Republic, just like they mention with Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia and Slovenia too. Not to mention all the former Soviet Republics.

You don't know history in that regard. Educate yourself as to when "Macedonia" came to existance. You'll find out it was created after Tito was there and the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia was formed. Unlike Croatia, Serbia etc.


And a last thing Fyromians might be Bulgars but they are educated that they are Macedonians, their granddaddy was Alexander the Great (everyone has a right to delusion) but most importantly that their country's borders end in the middle of Greece.
Yes today, in their schools.
And that started some 2 generations ago.

We're the good guys here and the ones who actually care for a stable region, who actually have protected and protect the integrity of FYROM and act (not talk) on its financial survival. But keep on taking cheap shots.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Az
Generally "people's sensibilities" ( usually PC in these cases of people being *******s" bring out exactly the opposite reaction from me.

Big Israeli flag
Big Macedonian Red and yellow in greece

Go cheer at the Iraqis and Pals getting blown up and spare me of your "Revolutionary" trends, little azz.

[Az]

Pals getting blown up

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Cyclotron
Israeli flag? What will happen to me if I do that?

People will think you're Israeli? Don't worry that doesn't come with angry stares

Neither would you get angry stares if you wore an old FYROM flag because people would think you're Fyromian. Rather because you would perpetuate in their faces and land a propaganda they don't like one bit.