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Asher: Your text didn't misled only MrFun, it also confused me. Glad to know you don't consider history worthless, got me scared for a moment.
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I'd be inclined to think that trying to understand the nature of language beyond linguistic description is pretty meaningless this side of a few major breakthrus in neuropsych. We know very little of how the mind processes information.Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?
It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- ElokComment
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The reason modern philosophy sucks is the obsession with formal logic and a distinct lack of wisdom... it's moved from cogitation toward what is effectively pedantic bean-counting... and, at least on some level, accountants are useful things to have laying around the house.
Ok so I'm being unfair; I do consider work on languages to be useful in terms of learning to communicate properly, and dealing with children with learning disabilities etc. OTOH, ethicists like Moore are completely off the ball in my opinion, and I find the medical ethicists too bound by a combination of popular misunderstanding of science, and religion (in tone at least). They're either hung up on life (omfg! complexity!), or so utilitarian that they hang Hitler porn on the walls above their iMacs.
It's really Russell's and Wittgenstein's fault, but they pwned so I can't blame them. IMO, it was Montaignes style that hit the nail on the head; he, in the best Epicurean style, made it something beautiful.
/RantLast edited by Whaleboy; October 19, 2005, 16:47."I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
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The funniest thing about taking a couple Philosophy of Logic courses was the compsci kids pwning the emo-glasses-wearing-Philosophy-majors."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Love the sig Asher
"I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
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POTM took a course on Philosophy of mind this summer. They covered Descartes and Hume, as well as discussions of androids, animals, etc. She thoroughly enjoyed it. Her teacher encouraged her to do more philosophy."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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Philosophers prey on minors.Originally posted by lord of the mark
POTM took a course on Philosophy of mind this summer. They covered Descartes and Hume, as well as discussions of androids, animals, etc. She thoroughly enjoyed it. Her teacher encouraged her to do more philosophy.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "Comment
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They should've made 'em read Hobbes, Nietzsche, and Strauss.Originally posted by lord of the mark
POTM took a course on Philosophy of mind this summer. They covered Descartes and Hume, as well as discussions of androids, animals, etc. She thoroughly enjoyed it. Her teacher encouraged her to do more philosophy.Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?
It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- ElokComment
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Originally posted by Agathon
I guess you have to be retarded to work at IBM.
wait... you're serious
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There was actually a course on Existentialism available - we discouraged POTM from taking it - at this age. I think that was for the bestOriginally posted by Last Conformist
They should've made 'em read Hobbes, Nietzsche, and Strauss.
Ive been talking with POTM about the lead up to the American Revolution, and as part of that gave her a thumbnail summary of Hobbes. She seemed to get it, but wasnt too interested. No droids or rational chimps, or clever discussions of causality.
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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nm"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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We have to be thankful for Philosophers, for if it weren't for them and their eating habits, we would not have the Dining Philosophers Problem.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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We should be thankful to philosphers, because without them, we'd not have a problem?
That someone doesn't seem right.Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?
It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- ElokComment
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It's used as a simplistic example of a more complex problem, because Philosophers are simple people."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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You do know the two uses of the word "problem" in English?Originally posted by Last Conformist
We should be thankful to philosphers, because without them, we'd not have a problem?
That someone doesn't seem right.
I have a problem with math
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I have to do some math problems."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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