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Originally posted by Cort Haus
How? The 7/7 bombers were British.
How? The 7/7 bombers were British.
and ID cards
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a lot of the know-how, funding and 'ideological support' came from abroad.
and ID cards
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Did it? I'd have thought it could have all been done with a couple of hundred quid and access to the internet, personally.Originally posted by C0ckney
a lot of the know-how, funding and 'ideological support' came from abroad.
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Most things can beOriginally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
Did it? I'd have thought it could have all been done with a couple of hundred quid and access to the internet, personally.
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But he would think of something
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Its how NK got the bomb.One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.Comment
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Did you know that the Bank of England's financial crime unit reckons that the total terrorist budget for all of the 9/11 atrocities may have been as low as £30,000?The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil FinlandComment
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Originally posted by Park Avenue
They are actually holders of "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Nothern Ireland" passports.
Oh give up- you know full well they're British passports. Unless of course you've never ever been abroad or gone through British customs.
I suppose that's a distinct possibility, since as a supposed rugby fan you also seemed unaware that rugby was known as rugby football.Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
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US$200,000 is the figure that I have seen put out by HM Treasury. Bishopsgate (IIRC) was put at around £3,000.Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
Did you know that the Bank of England's financial crime unit reckons that the total terrorist budget for all of the 9/11 atrocities may have been as low as £30,000?One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.Comment
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Acknowledgement of mistake accepted!Originally posted by molly bloom
Oh give up- you know full well they're British passports. Unless of course you've never ever been abroad or gone through British customs.
I suppose that's a distinct possibility, since as a supposed rugby fan you also seemed unaware that rugby was known as rugby football.
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It was elegant in it's simplicity that's why...just knives were used and a bit of pilot training and knowledge to be able to fly the plane to it's desired location...Originally posted by Dauphin
US$200,000 is the figure that I have seen put out by HM Treasury. Bishopsgate (IIRC) was put at around £3,000.Speaking of Erith:
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OK- ID Cards.
The police can currently stop and search someone they are suspicious of- when you are asked your address you can give it, a ficticious one, or someone elses.
Unless you have committed an offence, you cannot be arrested, and thus the Police cannot confirm your ID or address. They actually are forced to believe you(or not, it doesn't matter)
An ID card will close this incredible handicap.
As a punk in the late 70's and early 80's I'd get stopped all the time, giving a random home address or my real one made no difference to the copper as he simply couldn't verify it anyway.
My critcism of the Police would be: Get out of your cars and vans and start walking and talking again, you might even get enough snippets of info in a community to form a picture of the area you are meant to be serving.
Unless I'm mistaken, the role of the Police is still policing by consent, not the US enforcement style.
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I don't quite see the issue. If you're doing nothing wrong, why the hell should you have to inform the police of your address and details...Originally posted by Toby Rowe
OK- ID Cards.
The police can currently stop and search someone they are suspicious of- when you are asked your address you can give it, a ficticious one, or someone elses.
Unless you have committed an offence, you cannot be arrested, and thus the Police cannot confirm your ID or address. They actually are forced to believe you(or not, it doesn't matter)
An ID card will close this incredible handicap.
As a punk in the late 70's and early 80's I'd get stopped all the time, giving a random home address or my real one made no difference to the copper as he simply couldn't verify it anyway.
My critcism of the Police would be: Get out of your cars and vans and start walking and talking again, you might even get enough snippets of info in a community to form a picture of the area you are meant to be serving.
Unless I'm mistaken, the role of the Police is still policing by consent, not the US enforcement style.
TobySpeaking of Erith:
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If I ain't doing anything illegal, why should I have to tell the cops anything?Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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That is the exact point- Unless they find something on you the the entire stop and search is utterly pointless- It's taken up both my time and theirs.
If it is actually someone they are suspicious of- drugs and guns in Brixton, in that order; just, at least they'll actually get the REAL name and REAL address of the suspected street dealer they wanna get, assuming anti-fraud measures on the card are upto scratch, unlike mainland Europe cards from what you all say above.
On the cost to us of the card: Like everyone else (I hope) I will refuse to pay money in exchange for my identity as I already exist and therefor have no need to prove my existance.
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Originally posted by Park Avenue
Acknowledgement of mistake accepted!
The mistake would seem to be in prolonging and repeating the revelation of your ignorance.
Still, if that's your bag, be my guest....
On 5 October 1998, the United Kingdom Passport Agency (UKPA), began to issue a new more secure British passport which was redesigned to incorporate improved security safeguards (in line with international developments) in order to prevent falsification.
Oh wait- does that say 'British' passport ?
Why yes, it does....Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
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Yet another Guardian article:
David Cameron is no moderate
Flat taxes and military tomfoolery. What a guy.Comment
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