NHL Fantasy League Hockey

[Ninot]

Originally posted by Guynemer
I'd vote against PIM.

me too. I find it rediculous that you get points for having goons on your team.

[Asher]

Removed PIM, set to head to head.

League ID#: 	4355
League Name: 	Apolyton
Password: 	samurai
Season Type: 	Full
Draft Type: 	Offline Draft
Max Teams: 	20
Scoring Type: 	Head-to-Head
Max Moves: 	No maximum
Max Trades: 	No maximum
Trade Reject Time: 	2
Trade End Date: 	March 9, 2006
Waiver Time: 	2 days
Can't Cut List Provider: 	Yahoo! Sports
Trade Review: 	League Votes
Post Draft Players: 	Follow Waiver Rules
Weekly Deadline: 	Daily - Tomorrow
Start Scoring on: 	Week 1
Roster Positions: 	C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, G, G, BN, BN, BN, BN, IR
Stat Categories: 	G, A, +/-, PPP, SH%, FW, W, L, GAA, SV%, SHO

Link to join: http://hockey.fantasysports.yahoo.com/hockey/4355
Password: samurai

[Kontiki]

Wouldn't a straight Fantasy Point League make the most sense?

[Asher]

Originally posted by Kontiki
Wouldn't a straight Fantasy Point League make the most sense?

In a fantasy point league (available only to Custom Leagues), points are awarded based on how well your players perform in each of several statistical categories. All real-life statistics have associated point values, and each player's points are summed to produce your daily total.

So, if in your league, a goal is worth two points, an assist one and a penalty minute one, a player with two goals, three assists and 10 penalty minutes would score 17 [(2*2) + (3*1) + (10*1)] fantasy points.

Fantasy points, which are only awarded to starting players on your team, are tallied throughout the season. Each team with the highest total at the end of the year wins its league championship.

Fantasy point scoring is only available in Custom Leagues, and the commissioner must specify both the categories used and the point modifier values. If the commissioner does not specify a point modifier for a given category, no fantasy points will accrue in that category.

What's everyone think?

[Ninot]

Originally posted by Kontiki
Wouldn't a straight Fantasy Point League make the most sense?

i don't know how those work

[Ninot]

oh, sounds like rotisserie still. i'd do it, but i like the ability to make a comeback in H2H, which is lacking in others.

[Asher]

I'm still trying to figure this out.

How do I draft players on my team?

[Guynemer]

Another thought:

The problem with fantasy hockey is that the stats are weighted very, very heavily towards goalies. For instance, we would only have two active goalies on roster, but about half of all the stats would be goalie stats. For this reason, the first few rounds of the draft would likely be all goalies, as the value of even a mediocre goalie would be far higher than the best skater.

So either we need more skater stats, or fewer goalie stats.

[Hot Mustard]

Originally posted by Guynemer
Another thought:

The problem with fantasy hockey is that the stats are weighted very, very heavily towards goalies. For instance, we would only have two active goalies on roster, but about half of all the stats would be goalie stats. For this reason, the first few rounds of the draft would likely be all goalies, as the value of even a mediocre goalie would be far higher than the best skater.

So either we need more skater stats, or fewer goalie stats.

Agreed - I don't think I've ever seen someone with Brodeur finish out of the top three of a fantasy points-based pool.

How about Powerplay assists and goals?

H2H is more entertaining, but also alot more work. Considering the lacklustre participation we got from some people last time, I'm not sure H2H is a good idea.

[Ben Kenobi]

Yeah, I wasn't happy last time. I missed the autodraft, and lost out on picking Martin Brodeur.

Don't know if I'll be able to play, since you want folks to stick through the entire season, but if you need someone to fill a spot, let me know.

[Kontiki]

Originally posted by Guynemer
Another thought:

The problem with fantasy hockey is that the stats are weighted very, very heavily towards goalies. For instance, we would only have two active goalies on roster, but about half of all the stats would be goalie stats. For this reason, the first few rounds of the draft would likely be all goalies, as the value of even a mediocre goalie would be far higher than the best skater.

So either we need more skater stats, or fewer goalie stats.

It seems the commissioner can select the point modifiers for each stat, though. So, IIUC, you could simply skew the goalie stats down (or offensive stats up) to balance it out.

Or am I totally off base here?

[Hot Mustard]

Originally posted by Kontiki


It seems the commissioner can select the point modifiers for each stat, though. So, IIUC, you could simply skew the goalie stats down (or offensive stats up) to balance it out.

Or am I totally off base here?

You are exactly right.

However, it ends up being more art than science. A friend of mine has been doing this for years in his pool and each year we collectively discuss and tinker with the formula a little - looking for the holy grail of balance.

Mind you, that league includes pretty much every stat there is so it is much harder. Last time we gave too many points for Faceoff Wins and the relative value of solid centers skyrocketed.

[Kontiki]

But I don't think you have to use every stat. From the Yahoo explanation:

Fantasy point scoring is only available in Custom Leagues, and the commissioner must specify both the categories used and the point modifier values. If the commissioner does not specify a point modifier for a given category, no fantasy points will accrue in that category.

[Asher]

Should we switch to fantasy scoring?

[Hot Mustard]

Originally posted by Kontiki
But I don't think you have to use every stat. From the Yahoo explanation:

Sorry, I wasn't clear - by "that league", I meant that friend's league, not all points-based ones.