"We are now satisfied that he was not connected with the incidents"

[Dis]

Originally posted by Asher



You need to balance out the risks. Seeing as there were no less than 8 Tube bombings in just a period of a week, the risk is quite clearly very real.

He's wearing a very suspicious jacket that could hide a bomb on a warm day. He left a house under surveillance already. He bolts from police who identify themselves and tell him to stop.

Worst case is they don't stop him, and he's another bomber who detonates the bomb killing dozens of truly innocent people.

If they do stop him, worst case is they killed one person who was acting so incredibly stupid given the recent events and contents, that you have to wonder if he was just supposed to be a Martyr to generate further distrust of police in an already nervous nation. If you can't trust the police, who can you trust, etc.

I'm curious. They said he was an asian. Are they talking about East asians? (orientals). Because that would not be suspicious. Sure they have comitted terrorist attacks in Japan before. But so far they have not done so against London.

And yes I realize I'm racial profiling here.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Dis
I'm curious. They said he was an asian. Are they talking about East asians? (orientals). Because that would not be suspicious. Sure they have comitted terrorist attacks in Japan before. But so far they have not done so against London.

And yes I realize I'm racial profiling here.

One of the four bombers who died on the first attacks was Jamaican...race doesn't really matter.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn
Ok, so the point remains. If they had him pinnned down, why did they need to shoot?

Because they thought he had a bomb!

If he presses a detonator, boom! If they shoot him, he can't press it!

Are you willfully blind or just an idiot?

[Wiglaf]

They thought he had a bomb, so they followed him so loosely they let him into the subway. You realize he was in a crowd when they shot him?

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by General Ludd
Even just a very small bit of evidence would of been nice before they delt out his execution.

How about wearing a bulky jacket on a summer day and running into a subway station after the police yell "Stop! Armed police!"

[Asher]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
They thought he had a bomb, so they followed him so loosely they let him into the subway. You realize he was in a crowd when they shot him?

They shot him in the head.

They followed him loosely because they were only shadowing him at the time, they were investigating...

They got concerned when he got to the station, since it now looked like he was out to bomb today.

So they tried to intercept him outside the station. But this "innocent" man decided it would be a better idea to bolt and try to make it on a train.

[Mercator]

Wiglaf

Originally posted by Dis
I'm curious. They said he was an asian. Are they talking about East asians? (orientals).

They're talking about South Asians (i.e. Pakistani). There are a lot of Pakistanis and Indians in the UK, so Asian tends to mean South Asian.

[Dis]

turns out the guy was a brazilian.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/24/international/24london.html?ei=5065&en=b04575c1815189bb&ex=1122782400&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print

[Mercator]

Originally posted by Asher
They followed him loosely because they were only shadowing him at the time, they were investigating...

They got concerned when he got to the station, since it now looked like he was out to bomb today.

Um, if he apparently looked so suspicious and was thought to be carrying a bomb, what the hell were they expecting him to do? Take a walk around the block strapped with explosives?

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
They thought he had a bomb, so they followed him so loosely they let him into the subway. You realize he was in a crowd when they shot him?

Actually, you are destroying your own point.

If it really just was a show of police brutality, how come that they waited so long ?

[Mercator]

Because they were brutal and stupid?

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn
And why couldn't they shoot him in the leg or shoulder? Most cops are trained to shoot to maim, not kill.

Which cops are those?

Around here they are trained to shoot for centre of body mass.

[Wiglaf]

The police did not interview him presumably because they wanted to see if he led them to more bombers. (You know those Brazilian terrorists ) Because everyone in London uses mass transport or the bus system, it's probable he was stopped not because he entered the underground but because he was wearing a jacket.

The way to handle that is NOT to have 20 disguised men start shouting "Police" in the subway, follow him until he falls and then kill him in the middle of a crowd. Honestly I cannot think of a worse way to have handled the situation. Have someone on the street investigate his jacket. Anything.

And the way we've been told there was a "direct" link, and now "no link" to terrorism from the Metropolitan police is also indicative of their incompetence.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Gibsie
You know, I'm sure I've seen the Israelis apprehend suspected suicide bombers without leaving their brains on the pavement a good few times. By what Jewery do they accomplish this?

They point assault weapons at the suspect and keep their distance. If the suspect does exactly what he (or she) is told, which includes disarming himself while they continue to point their weapons, the suspect will not be shot.

This guy would have been dead in Israel, and he never would have got near the station.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Dis


so we should shoot to kill any suspicious characters?

Police should shoot to kill a threat to themselves and others.

Man with toy gun, or knife, menaces police. Cop can't tell it's not a real gun, or they are too close to avoid a lunge with the knife. Man with weapon is dead unless he does exactly what the officer tells him to. This just happened near here.

If the suspect acts like a threat, they leave the police very little choice but to treat them as a threat. I won't second guess a cop trying to save his own life, the lives of his partners, and those of the public.