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  • Originally posted by Agathon
    It's lucky he wasn't a terrorist. That would just have given Bliar a reason to arm all the UK police. Frankly, I don't like the idea of cops carrying handguns, it isn't necessary.
    A rather grandiose surmise. I don't see any reason why Blair would suddenly arm all police.
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    • A big to Asher for his efforts to hammer some sense to the people here. Given the information the police had at the time, eliminating him was the proper thing to do. An electrician connected with the terrorists, running to the tube from wearing suicide bomber clothes...he even looks middle eastern. The police did exactly what they are paid for.
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      • Originally posted by Eli


        He doesnt even look asian.
        Funnily enough, nor did the suspected 7/7 suicide bomber who was black.

        You incredible fool.
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          • High price to pay for fare evasion.
            Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

            Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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            • Originally posted by Asher
              It's not funny, but it is incredibly stupid. It's Darwin-award material if he is innocent (which you can bet your sweet ass he's not -- he left a building already under surveillance).
              so we've gone from "under charge = guilty" to "being under surveillance = guilty"?
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              • Originally posted by Asher
                The suspect, described as being of Asian appearance
                and ended up being Brazilian.

                way to go British Intelligence
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                • Originally posted by notyoueither
                  This guy would have been dead in Israel, and he never would have got near the station.
                  not always, on page 2 there is a link to an article about IDF forces stopping a bomber without killing him....

                  i said it again, lets face the fact that british forces are not properly trained to handle a suicide terrorist....
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                  • Originally posted by MarkG
                    and ended up being Brazilian.

                    way to go British Intelligence
                    Described by who? A witness, not the police service?
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                    • Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
                      "The man was identified by police as Jean Charles de Menezes, a 27-year-old Brazilian, described by officers as an electrician on his way to work." Some good citizen is going to be angry about not getting his electirc plug fixed.
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                      • Originally posted by Kaak
                        not to point out the obvious, but if you shoot a suicide bomber in the leg, he would still be able to detonate the bomb
                        they already had him pinned down PRIOR to shooting him, he wasnt able to move and detonate anything....
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                        • Originally posted by MarkG
                          not always, on page 2 there is a link to an article about IDF forces stopping a bomber without killing him....

                          i said it again, lets face the fact that british forces are not properly trained to handle a suicide terrorist....
                          A sample of one is not in anyway useful for drawing such a comparison.


                          The point stands that the British forces aren't sufficiently trained or equipped, but your reasoning is specious
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                          • Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
                            High price to pay for fare evasion.
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                            • more innocent deaths on the way

                              Metropolitan Police Commissioner Ian Blair acknowledged that "somebody else could be shot" as the hunt continued, but added "everything is done to make it right".

                              But he said the "shoot to kill" policy for dealing with suspected suicide bombers would remain in force.

                              "There is no point in shooting at someone's chest because that is where the bomb is likely to be," he said.

                              "There is no point in shooting anywhere else if they fall down and detonate it."


                              from another bbc report
                              Police followed him as he caught a bus to Stockwell tube station.

                              They said Mr Menezes' apparently bulky clothing added to their suspicions. Some Brazilians find even summer weather in the UK cold and often dress warmly.

                              But cousin Patricia Armani said she did not remember him wearing a padded jacket.

                              "He didn't use to feel cold. In the winter he even walked on the street with T-shirt," she told the BBC Brasil.com
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                              • Originally posted by MarkG
                                i said it again, lets face the fact that british forces are not properly trained to handle a suicide terrorist....
                                Sorry Mark, owner of the site or not, this argument is pointless. By this reasoning, the UK police force should just do nothing until they are trained? They have had 8 bombs go off in two weeks! They can't wait to be properly trained! They need to start acting now (although they should, and probably are, implementing a training program as we speak)!
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