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  • #61
    Originally posted by BlackCat


    Maybe, but the mere fact that they exist is a shame.

    @Pekka, glad to see that you have recovered a little from your telephonecalls - would hate to miss future stories from SC
    don't be silly, we have many more silly laws that we don't enforced. Are those laws a shame as well?

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Dissident


      don't be silly, we have many more silly laws that we don't enforced. Are those laws a shame as well?
      Yes.

      Here's it's widely thought that unenforced laws are bad, because they encourage people to think that breaking the law is no big deal.
      Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

      It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
      The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Last Conformist
        Yes.

        Here's it's widely thought that unenforced laws are bad, because they encourage people to think that breaking the law is no big deal.


        Dammit, you beat me
        With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

        Steven Weinberg

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        • #64
          curfews
          The enemy cannot push a button if you disable his hand.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Combat Ingrid
            curfews
            Curfews do have legitimate and valid uses. In neighborhoods rife with drugs and gangs, I think the cops have every right to keep minors off the street after a certain time. For their safety, and the safety of the neighborhood as a whole.
            "Perhaps a new spirit is rising among us. If it is, let us trace its movements and pray that our own inner being may be sensitive to its guidance, for we are deeply in need of a new way beyond the darkness that seems so close around us." --MLK Jr.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Jac de Molay


              Curfews do have legitimate and valid uses. In neighborhoods rife with drugs and gangs, I think the cops have every right to keep minors off the street after a certain time. For their safety, and the safety of the neighborhood as a whole.
              Why then set the limit at 18 ? If it was set to say 40 or 50, maybe 60 it would have a greater impact on crime.
              With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

              Steven Weinberg

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              • #67
                Jac: In that case, the cerfew should be for the gangs. It's just wrong to restrict the freedom for an innocent person.
                The enemy cannot push a button if you disable his hand.

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                • #68
                  Gangs are usually youth organizations.
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • #69
                    OzzyKP is a gang banger!!!
                    We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                    • #70
                      He's going to make a run for you Hittin' it title, Ted.
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by DinoDoc
                        Gangs are usually youth organizations.
                        Sure, but all youth are not criminal gang members. The police should focus on getting the punks off the streets, to make them safe for everyone else.
                        The enemy cannot push a button if you disable his hand.

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                        • #72
                          It was a response to BlackCat not you.
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • #73
                            Maybe a little off topic, but has anyone heard if Che has been attacked by the choppers ? It's more than an hour since we last heard from him and that's not normal
                            With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                            Steven Weinberg

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by DinoDoc
                              It was a response to BlackCat not you.
                              Actually, I agree with Combat.
                              With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                              Steven Weinberg

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                              • #75
                                Why then set the limit at 18 ?
                                Because they're minors, and standards of legal protection, prosecution, and enforcement are almost universally applied differently than for adults, almost always in a more conservative direction. They're kids, after all.

                                It's also an issue of risk management. Keeping minors off the street in specific drug/gang neighborhoods not only keeps young thugs off the streets, but protects other children. It's not like the cops are bearing down on some kid who's coming home from his shift at McDonald. They apply the policy in known high-risk neighborhoods as a precaution to protect all children.

                                Jac: In that case, the cerfew should be for the gangs. It's just wrong to restrict the freedom for an innocent person.
                                In high-risk neighborhoods( at least here), drugs and gangs are ubiquitous- the cops can't readily ascertain who's rollin' and who isn't. So they apply a curfew for the safety and benefit of all children.
                                "Perhaps a new spirit is rising among us. If it is, let us trace its movements and pray that our own inner being may be sensitive to its guidance, for we are deeply in need of a new way beyond the darkness that seems so close around us." --MLK Jr.

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