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  • In terms of monitoring the Internet, China largely uses a passive blocking system.

    Yes, resources are used, but we don't know how much. It could be similar to the US war on drugs, or it could be minor, like the amount of time a U.S. cop spends handing out jaywalking tickets.

    If those resources were diverted, would it make a significant or insignificant difference. I don't think any of us can say.

    Mind you, I don't see any benefits in blocking the Internet, whether it is done in China, Singapore or any other country.
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    • So its basically a cost with no return and whats more by blocking the internet it prevents necessary information from advancing the culture, society.

      Both of these effects are what I meant by opportunity cost.
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      • Originally posted by Tingkai
        In terms of monitoring the Internet, China largely uses a passive blocking system.
        Yes, it's so passive actively monitoring all websites.

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        • Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
          So its basically a cost with no return and whats more by blocking the internet it prevents necessary information from advancing the culture, society.

          Both of these effects are what I meant by opportunity cost.
          Don't you understand? The internet has profited many people but it also has brought many problems, such as sex, violence and feudal superstitions and other harmful information that has seriously poisoned people's spirits.

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          • Originally posted by Tingkai


            Yes, and I was talking about the country and in the same thread I wrote:

            "This is what pisses me off so much. Most Americans I know are decent people. They believe and have what most people in the world would cherish as true and valuable. And then the US government squanders and abuses this greatness."

            Again, far different from the anti-China crowd.
            You say that but don't really offer an example. No one here that I've seen has called the Chinese people evil or somehow less than westerners yet you continully bring up racisim over and over. Critizing the Chinese government is not being racist. So please provide a specific example of a racist remark against the Chinese people because I don't recall seeing one.
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            • Originally posted by Saras


              You're right, of course, that it's easier for small countries, but there are ways for big ones to cope as well, as long as there is political will.
              Most important post in this thread. There is no will from the goverment to change.
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              • Sprayber
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                • Originally posted by Kuciwalker


                  Yes, it's so passive actively monitoring all websites.
                  That would be an example of passive controls of the Internet. The story effectively says the Chinese government has created a firewall and people want to get through it, then they have to register.


                  It's the same system used by many corporations who use firewalls to block certain types of websites.

                  It's an efficient and inexpensive way to control the Internet.
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                  • Originally posted by Sprayber
                    So please provide a specific example of a racist remark against the Chinese people because I don't recall seeing one.
                    Read my first post.
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                    • Your first post cites no example, but instead just makes stuff up. In fact, other posters here as well as myself have often pointed out where you just make 'facts' up. You and UR don't seem to have any accurate information, and when questioned about it, you either ignore it or try to dodge it.
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                      • He's just trying to learn to become a politician, DaShi.
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                        • He wants his CCP membership.
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                          • Originally posted by Tingkai

                            Families value their children.
                            Well, as long as they are boys, anyway.

                            If you are a rural Chinese daughter, well, you may be sold, abandoned, aborted before birth, or left to wither away underfed in an orphanage.

                            In some parts of the country the gender imbalance is now something like 134:100 (male:female).

                            Some Chinese parents don't really mind if daughter goes away to the big city to become a prostitute - as long as she sends money home.

                            As the old Chinese saying goes, raising a daughter is like watering your neighbor's crops (i.e. it's a wasted investment).

                            Beijing is fighting the growing problem, there's the current "Girls are important, too" campaign (I even saw a sign for it in Shanghai, where girls are highly valued). There is also talk of ending the one-child policy due to the unintended effect of gender imbalance.

                            However, child labor in China is just one tiny aspect of what I consider the most worrisome shortcoming of Chinese culture: Chinese simply treat other Chinese (who aren't valuable to them) like sh*t. You see this daily, manifested in countless ways, great and small. It's so dismaying.

                            As I've said before in this forum, the worst cases of foreigners exploiting Chinese workers doesn't hold a candle to what the average Chinese boss does to his workers.

                            As so many lament (I think DaShi in this thread), in China it's the squandered potential of so many Chinese people that really strikes you. China's population should be it's national treasure. If change brings with it increased opportunities for people to lead fufilling lives and contribute meaningfully to society, as opposed to focusing so intensely on how to line one's own pocket no matter the cost to others, China will be an awesome society.

                            I worry about how easy it will be to change what apears to be a very ingrained attitude, but with so many other things changing so quickly, I keep hoping.
                            Last edited by mindseye; June 10, 2005, 10:46.
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                            • Originally posted by mindseye
                              In some parts of the country the gender imbalance is now something like 134:100 (male:female).
                              I'm most likely not remembering correctly but weren't you going to start a thread stating that the gender imbalance wasn't as big a problem as generally thought.
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                              • Originally posted by Tingkai
                                That would be an example of passive controls of the Internet. The story effectively says the Chinese government has created a firewall and people want to get through it, then they have to register.
                                Eh, no, it's not passive - there has to be a bunch of people to handle all the websites being registered, and there have to be a bunch of people to constantly review registered websites so that they don't have objectionable content ( )

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