German Ignorance

[Az]

were poles gassed for their nationality? IIRC they were supposed to work at the mines and the fields at valhalla?

[alva]

Also, Soviet war prisoners were large one;

The prime reason many camps were build in the first place.

[BeBMan]

IIRC the first part of Auschwitz was a concentration camp for Polish intellectuals and resistors from 1940 on, so even before the so-called final solution, later also for Soviet POWs....Auschwitz-Birkenau was the death camp as such, since 41....Another part was specifically a camp for slave workers.

[Az]

I think you've got it right, BeBro.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Muad'Dib


Geez Zen, I guess you don't watch Jay Leno. The answer is, probably not.

Two questions for you though: 1) Is the U.S. an imperialist country??? 2) Do you know the significance of "Viva Cristo Rey"???

Yes, United States was an imperialist nation in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century.

Hell, one could argue that United States was an imperialist nation up through most of the Cold War as well.

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by BeBro
This thread is boring. Let's spam it to the 500 and get it closed.

Lehren mich sehr gut Deutsch, bitte.


Cuss words first, natuerlich.

[child of Thor]

Its like Great Britain - we never knowingly set out to harm any other country. We were only trying to bring some civilisation to the savage and heathen parts of the world. If that meant that many innocent people had to die, then that was just the price they had to pay. I dont think any of those countries(USA included) holds that against us now do they?



Imperialism/blind patriotism is exactly the type of breeding ground that can lead to situations like the Holocaust(or the British Empire ).

Muad'Dib - you need to learn to be self critical of your own country when its neccesary(as we all should be of our own), it wont stop you being a true patriot - it might even make you a better patriot; if real Freedom+ true democracy are things you believe in.

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by Muad'Dib
Geez Zen, I guess you don't watch Jay Leno. The answer is, probably not.

Geez, then WHY THE F*UCK are you raising such a pseudo-patriotic nonsensical racket over a stupid German kid who knows crap about the holocaust when the grand majority of US kids don't know about all the atrocities their own country has pulled?

I call it the most hypocritical of arguments.

Two questions for you though: 1) Is the U.S. an imperialist country??? 2) Do you know the significance of "Viva Cristo Rey"???

1) Undoubtedly Yes
2) Yep, and... what does that have to do with this discussion?

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by Ted Striker

Lehren mich sehr gut Deutsch, bitte.

Cuss words first, natuerlich.

Sie mussen lehrnen die "Cuss worten" zuerst immer!!!

(apologies if this is terrible german, I took a year and a half at the beginning of college aber habe ich alles vergessen)

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Muad'Dib


1) Is the U.S. an imperialist country???

Mark Twain thought so, and I don't think there's any other way to describe the Spanish-American War, after which the Americans went on prosecuting a war against the people they were meant to be liberating in the Philippines- a war of extermination in some of the islands.

[Kuciwalker]

Yes, but we don't own the Phillipines now, do we? The only remnants of that war NOW are Puerto Rico and a bunch of pretty autonomous islands in the Pacific. A far cry from the European empires.

[MrFun]

Just because we don't own the islands NOW, doesn't meant that we WERE not an imperialist country at some time in the past.

[Kuciwalker]

I'm talking about now, though, not that point in the past.

[MrFun]

that's nice

[Dauphin]

How many European Empires are there now then?