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  • Originally posted by Muad'Dib
    I don't like being redundant. I've explained myself in my posts. I suggest you go back and re-read all 5 pages.
    Really? You've never really explained if US schoolkids know about My Lai, Somoza, Batista, genocide against native americans, segregation and all the other crap your country has pulled.

    Translation: I'd rather not answer them since it'll just show how weak and lame my argument was.
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    • Originally posted by pchang

      4 million civilians were the total killed. Not even close to a majority of them were killed by napalm. In fact, many were killed by N. Vietnam.
      Thanks clearing that up. Four million civilians killed in a 20 year long civil war in a largely rural country somehow becomes 4 million killed by U.S. planes dropping napalm. Simply degrees of ignorance.
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      • Originally posted by Muad'Dib
        I don't like being redundant. I've explained myself in my posts. I suggest you go back and re-read all 5 pages.
        redundant or retarded?

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        • Originally posted by Max Webster


          redundant or retarded?
          I am sure he will appreciate your help in making his thought more precise.
          Statistical anomaly.
          The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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          • I was close to professor in my college days. And he asked how many friends I had. I said lots. He responded, "How many of them would bail you out of jail if you were arrested say for murder or for rape." I laughed and said, "Are you serious?" "Yes," he replied. I sat there contemplating my answer. So I said, "Unless bail is really, really low, maybe 5. "Well bail in those cases is never low and you know that. Stop avoiding the question and give me your answer. "None," I said.
            "Then they're not friends," he replied, "they're just acquaintances." "Come on," I said, "most of them would take a bullet or pull me out of a burning building. Just because a person doesn't have that kind money is irrelevant." "A true friend would find a way to come up with the money," he said.

            Dude, if my best 'friend' rapes someone (proven), he can rot and die.
            We're again crossing the line between loyalty(patriotism) and blind faith. A good friend(patriot) has got to be honest and critical too in order to be a good friend.
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            • I'd bail out my friend if he murdered someone. Or raped. That person would still be judged in court of law. A FRIEND. Not some buddy though, they can kiss my butt.
              In da butt.
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              • Re: German Ignorance

                Originally posted by Muad'Dib
                I was watching Frontline last night and it dealt with a Polish Jew who survived the Holocaust and was traveling through Germany talking to Germans about the subject and such. As he talked to a group of high-schoolers, he asked them about how they should be educated on the subject (Holocaust). This German b***h said, "What about Vietnam, the Americans did as many bad things as the Germans did."

                Really, you f*****g c**t.


                I'm afraid my experience of individual Germans and Germans en masse contradicts this. I've never met a group of people so keenly aware of the role their country played in modern history and the reasons for it.


                Would you say that all Americans should be judged by some ignoramus who thinks that all African-Americans are racially inferior, or that slavery wasn't so bad, or that the Indians were asking for it, or that American sponsored dictatorships were a good way of getting cheap domestic staff ?


                I wouldn't .
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                • Re: Re: German Ignorance

                  Originally posted by molly bloom

                  Would you say that all Americans should be judged by some ignoramus who thinks that all African-Americans are racially inferior, or that slavery wasn't so bad, or that the Indians were asking for it, or that American sponsored dictatorships were a good way of getting cheap domestic staff ?

                  It's so unfair to hold someone to the same standards that he would hold others to, Molly.
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                  • Really? You've never really explained if US schoolkids know about My Lai, Somoza, Batista, genocide against native americans, segregation and all the other crap your country has pulled.

                    Translation: I'd rather not answer them since it'll just show how weak and lame my argument was.
                    Geez Zen, I guess you don't watch Jay Leno. The answer is, probably not.

                    Two questions for you though: 1) Is the U.S. an imperialist country??? 2) Do you know the significance of "Viva Cristo Rey"???
                    "And his word shall carry
                    death eternal to those who
                    stand against righteousness."

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                    • You still haven't answered my questions, Muad'Dib. Why do you think it's perfectly all right to judge an entire nation over one person's comment, but completely inappropriate for others to judge one person over that one person's comment?
                      B♭3

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                      • This thread is boring. Let's spam it to the 500 and get it closed.
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                        • And it had so much potential.
                          Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                          Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                          • Yeah, I wonder who ruined it. I blame Skanky.
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                            • I think what quite a few people here are failing to see is that even if some of the US's actions over the years have turned out badly for many innocent people, that was never the intention. Amercia would never do this kind of thing deliberatly

                              In WWII the Nazis deliberatly set out to kill an entire race(or races if their plans to turn Africa into a giant concentration camp had worked!).

                              Amercia just wants freedom and peace for all people on the planet. It will never knowingly target civillians, or use weapons of mass destruction against an enemy unless there was no other choice.

                              So untill you realise this you just wont understand how dispicable that german girls comments were, and by them she condemed her entire race to deserve to be put in Gitmo or worse.

                              Its the TRUTH and if you cant se that, your obviously a commie scumbag that just hates the fact USA is so great and is blessed by jesus(its in the bible if you go and look).
                              'The very basis of the liberal idea – the belief of individual freedom is what causes the chaos' - William Kristol, son of the founder of neo-conservitivism, talking about neo-con ideology and its agenda for you.info here. prove me wrong.

                              Bush's Republican=Neo-con for all intent and purpose. be afraid.

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                              • Originally posted by Pekka
                                Perhaps Zyklon B and concentration camps were .. well extermination camps. They were to serve in killing Jews, Gypsies, gays.. all kinds of folks, most notably Jewish people because they took the heavy casualties and suffering from it.
                                I'm just feeling obliged to remind that Poles were the second biggest, after Jews, cathegory in Auschwitz.
                                Also, Soviet war prisoners were large one; that's what most people in the West do not know I guess.
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