Canpol: Election Imminent?

[notyoueither]

But Leo said something smart somewhere. The Libs will likely get in a budget vote before this comes back. That way they can campaign on the defeated budget, and not on being parriahs.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither
It should be pointed out that the motion in question is only necessary since the government is shielding itself by not allowing opposition days.

As is their right as a government.

They have until June 18? to allow 6 more opposition days.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither

I'm really not sure on this one.

There seems to be a lot of interpretation room.

Honestly, I don't know what to think.

My uncertainty is compounded by how close the vote tally will likely be (for or against)

Using procedural tactics to either kill or keep the government on life support is obviously going to be the norm in this situation. I find it hard to get too worked up about the actual tactics employed.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


As is their right as a government.

They have until June 18? to allow 6 more opposition days.

As is the right of the opposition to demonstrate a lack of confidence in the government and send us to the polls given that the government wants to play fast and loose with procedure to begin with.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Using procedural tactics to either kill or keep the government on life support is obviously going to be the norm in this situation. I find it hard to get too worked up about the actual tactics employed.

It is to get worked up over when a government is wracked by corruption, the country is paying the fiscal price for that, and yet they play games to keep the opposition from opportunities to bring about an election. That is, it is to get worked up to me.

I mean, if they really don't want to play by the rule book, why don't they torch the Commons and blame a prolife fundy? Then some sort of enabling act and no need for any more annoying elections. /rant

[Ben Kenobi]

It should be pointed out that the motion in question is only necessary since the government is shielding itself by not allowing opposition days.

Yep. Definition of fascism right there. We are no longer a democracy, if we cannot force a non-confidence motion on the government.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


Yep. Definition of fascism right there.

We are no longer a democracy, if we cannot force a non-confidence motion on the government.

a) Uh...then the Americans don't have a democracy?



b) The opposition will have a chance to pass a non-confidence motion.

At least 6 times between now and June 18th

It seems to me like everybody's playing fast and loose with the rules here. I don't really care either way.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither


It is to get worked up over when a government is wracked by corruption, the country is paying the fiscal price for that, and yet they play games to keep the opposition from opportunities to bring about an election. That is, it is to get worked up to me.

I mean, if they really don't want to play by the rule book, why don't they torch the Commons and blame a prolife fundy? Then some sort of enabling act and no need for any more annoying elections. /rant

Yeah, that's exactly the same thing.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
b) The opposition will have a chance to pass a non-confidence motion.

At least 6 times between now and June 18th

It seems to me like everybody's playing fast and loose with the rules here. I don't really care either way.

What makes you think those 6 days will ever happen? What does prorogue mean?

Also, it's strange that you feel following a precedent set in the 20's is playing fast and lose with the rules, when it is ignoring that precedent (Valeri's way) that would be the problem.

[Ben Kenobi]

a) Uh...then the Americans don't have a democracy?

They don't have a minority governing over a majority, without a mandate from the people.

At least 6 times between now and June 18th

I think the opposition should get to determine which days are opposition days, not the government. It's pointless to call them 'opposition' days when the government decides when they get them.

[Ben Kenobi]

why don't they torch the Commons and blame a prolife fundy?

That would be the step to come.

We've had 13 years of liberal rule, that's enough for me!

[Fake Boris]

Thanks BK. The separatists are just waiting for Harper to become PM.

[RedFred]

As long as the people in Ontario are quick to forgive and forget anything the Liberals do, and just as quick to examine under a microscope anything the opposition hasn't even done, but might do if elected, we are in for a long period of bad government.

At least in the BC election we have an opportunity to get rid of the first past the post electorial system.

[embalmer42]

Too true....and polls seem to indicate Ontario is already well down the road of "forgive and forget". My question is, if Canadians aren't going to hold the Liberals responsible for their actions over this, just what do the Liberals have to do to lose power?

[Bosh]

Originally posted by embalmer42
Too true....and polls seem to indicate Ontario is already well down the road of "forgive and forget". My question is, if Canadians aren't going to hold the Liberals responsible for their actions over this, just what do the Liberals have to do to lose power?

Face an opposition party that isn't a joke?