US universities/colleges still suck

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
here are the top 500 universities in the world

http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2004/top500list.htm

This stat is centred on the performance of unis wrt research. All of its measures bar one come from the contribution to scientific research and aren't linked to the pedagogic quality or to the uni's impact in non-research related fields.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Asher
Someone with intellect realizes knowledge and intellect are not the same thing.

But also that they're highly correlated.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Knowledge is an important part of intellect. After all, intellect is the capacity for knowledge, so, while it is not exact, the level of knowledge should have a correlation with the level of intellect (unless you are autistic or something ) .

[Lawrence of Arabia]

if my univ had any alumi who won awards, we would be in the top 5. too bad. its cuz weve only been around since 1960 i guess.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Knowledge is an important part of intellect. After all, intellect is the capacity for knowledge, so, while it is not exact, the level of knowledge should have a correlation with the level of intellect (unless you are autistic or something ) .

What if I had a form of autism, would you still love me?

And intellect isn't just the capacity for knowledge, either. It's about reasoning and being able to think abstractly, as well.

Goofing on the country of a worthless far-away city isn't a sign of anything but the weak arguments of those who bring it up.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

This stat is centred on the performance of unis wrt research. All of its measures bar one come from the contribution to scientific research and aren't linked to the pedagogic quality or to the uni's impact in non-research related fields.

well yeah, its hard to quantity non research contributions.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Asher

What if I had a form of autism, would you still love me?

And intellect isn't just the capacity for knowledge, either. It's about reasoning and being able to think abstractly, as well.

Goofing on the country of a worthless far-away city isn't a sign of anything but the weak arguments of those who bring it up.

Or a successful troll.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Or a successful troll.

There are far better potential trolls in this thread to stir reactions.

I suppose it would take intellect for them to realize this...

[Kuciwalker]

You bit, didn't you?

[Ben Kenobi]

The winner solves the most problems in the shortest amount of time.

So quantity over quality?

Interesting. If I want to learn how to sluff out code, then I will go to Calgary.

If I want to learn to program, I should spend money elsewhere.

[Imran Siddiqui]

And intellect isn't just the capacity for knowledge, either. It's about reasoning and being able to think abstractly, as well.

Same thing really. Reasoning and abstract thinking is part of the capacity for knowlege. How is most knowledge gained?

Goofing on the country of a worthless far-away city isn't a sign of anything but the weak arguments of those who bring it up.

And once again... you show the low knowlege level you possess. Basic geography should be known by knowlegable people. Especially when dealing with a city of 2.3 million people and a country's capital!

[Asher]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
So quantity over quality?

Interesting. If I want to learn how to sluff out code, then I will go to Calgary.

If I want to learn to program, I should spend money elsewhere.

Quality of the code is analyzed in a tie situation, but is a subjective minefield of conflicting schools of thought.

The contest is to determine problem solving aptitude more than anything else.

They don't teach you how to "sluff out code" at Calgary, they teach you how to solve problems. The problem is a lot of universities seem to be just focusing on how to "sluff out code", increasingly the US ones, which is why they're tanking in the rankings compared to other schools.

For what it's worth, UBC finally ranked above Calgary this year. They're 19th or something?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Or a successful troll.

And such easy biting... oh, so easy.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
You bit, didn't you?

I'm terribly bored waiting for my guild to finish a raid in World of Warcraft -- I'm eagerly replying to any and everything to kill time.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Most CS majors are normal people. Skaters, stoners, nerds, slackers...all of the above.

suuuuuuuurrrrreeee

See, people like you don't understand the industry.

I deal with this first hand -- IBMers in India and customers for American tech companies with Indian employees all the time. The kind of jobs outsourced to India should scare the kids taking programming courses at their community college, but not university-degree software engineers/computer scientists. That's why our salaries keep going up, even though I hear all of the dumbass management students saying my job is going to India.

they are, as soon as they realize you guys are overpaid, lazy, and cant communicate. they can cut all the fat in america, and hire five times as many CS guys in India, plus managers, for the price of one in america, and they do a better job. plus they dont ask for healthcare, or any other perks. a win win.