"We'd love to employ you, but ......."

[Agathon]

In liberal arts (US), a masters means either 1) the person is teaching high school or 2) They couldn't make it through the PhD program and this is the consolation prize.

That's in the US. A Masters degree is a prereq for a PhD program outside North America (mind you, a PhD is shorter too - 3 years).

[Ben Kenobi]

Passion isn't quite needed, but a desire to do it longterm and the ability to enjoy it certainly helps. And you would be surprised. I've encountered many people who are thrilled to have such jobs and enjoy coming to work for them.

Well, I'd be thrilled too.

It means I pay my rent, and the work is much more fun, than say treeplanting.

[Dracon II]

Originally posted by Agathon

In liberal arts (US), a masters means either 1) the person is teaching high school or 2) They couldn't make it through the PhD program and this is the consolation prize.

That's in the US. A Masters degree is a prereq for a PhD program outside North America (mind you, a PhD is shorter too - 3 years).

Masters programs in Australia are only 1 - 1.5 years.

[Jon Miller]

in physics a masters is about 2 years of classes

a PHD is then ~3 years of research ontop of that

most people do not end on a masters (in fact, the programs won't accept you unless you are going for your PHD)

Jon Miller

[Barinthus]

I've not read this thread so forgive if I'm repeating what someone else said.

I've been an interviewee and I've interviewed people - I can tell you, interviews suck as a method of screening people. I've seen instances in which a person did terrific job at an interview but turns out to be one of worse employees. And there were some people that did awful at their interviews but my intuition told me to hire them and I had to persuade fellow interviewers to give them a chance and they wind up becoming one of best assets to the organization.

Interviews suck but I guess we need a way to select people.

With that out of the way - I once applied to McDonald's and was turned down. I was mortified! But fortunately the rejection led me to search on and I landed a terrific job somewhere else so I can't complain.

[Ted Striker]

I agree, interviews pretty much blow as a tried and true method of screening.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Barinthus
With that out of the way - I once applied to McDonald's and was turned down. I was mortified! But fortunately the rejection led me to search on and I landed a terrific job somewhere else so I can't complain.

To be rejected by McDonalds is the ultimate kick in the teeth really, isn't it?

[Dis]

I was turned down by McDonald's. Though they weren't really hiring. I put in an application anyways.

McDonald's are hard jobs to get for teenagers where I live. People tend to look at teenagers as irresponsible for some reason. Fast food restaurants normally hire adults where I live.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Dissident
I was turned down by McDonald's. Though they weren't really hiring. I put in an application anyways.

McDonald's are hard jobs to get for teenagers where I live. People tend to look at teenagers as irresponsible for some reason. Fast food restaurants normally hire adults where I live.

You stick to your guns Diss, massage that ego

[duke o' york]

Re: Re: "We'd love to employ you, but ......."

Originally posted by DrSpike

Still, you can focus on their encouraging feedback, and just keep plugging away. The next interviewer might be a big Michael York fan.

Yeah Jamski! Do Folderol need an accountant?

Diss, if you get the Ronald McDonald suit in the right size next time then I'm sure you'll sail through.

[Brundlefly]

Re: "We'd love to employ you, but ......."

Originally posted by duke o' york


So, polytubbies, in a bid to relieve my gloom, what are the most outrageous reasons you have been refused a job for?

premature ejaculation

[JohnT]

Are you MRT's DL, bfg?

[Brundlefly]

Originally posted by JohnT
Are you MRT's DL, bfg?

I'm his evil twin.

[rah]

I'm a little surprised about the comment that "when i was hired I was promised a promotion in 2 years"

No promotions should be automatic, they should be based on attaining work goals or performance goals. Time shouldn't guarentee anything. And promising employees things that may not happen is the best way to lose employees.

[Dauphin]

Whoever said that must be a civil servant.