Ozzy Begins Vermont Campaign to Lower the Drinking Age

[Atahualpa]

Originally posted by Spiffor

Considering that my party remains at in power in my district (broader than my town), and that we saw a progression in our turnout between 2002 and 2004, I'd take opposition to that

And that is because you have the more charismatic people or because people vote for your ideas? Is it because people are dissatisfied with other parties?
How large is your base compared to those who voted for your party in the last election?

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Atahualpa
And that is because you have the more charismatic people or because people vote for your ideas? Is it because people are dissatisfied with other parties?
How large is your base compared to those who voted for your party in the last election?

Actually, the result is mostly because we are finding back our base that we lost when we sucked the dick of the former government. It's absolutely not because of charisma (we have a big problem on that one).

The other reason is because we slowly manage to have our ideas known (ideas which you have no idea about, but already dismiss as "dead" because of the C word, like a great many French people do), and we have re-created new networks.
Just like Ozzy, the ideas of the French Communist Party are not well known, and the arguments in favour of them are basically unknown. Especially in my neck of the wood, where communists are seen as fair freaks (along with two-headed twins and bearded women ). However, because of the C word, many people criticize us on their image of our platform.

This is why it is essential to make our arguments known. Especially, it takes time to have people admit that we're a normal party that carries a viable alternative. Just like it'll take time for Ozzy to have people admit he represents an actual issue, that deserves attention, and whose arguments aren't immature (such is the prejudice he risks to encounter).

Ozzy has done this work quite well on 'Poly. Two years ago, I can't think of anybody who had an interest in youth rights. It is now an issue regularly discussed here, and some people who are not him have taken sides. Still, prejudice continues to exist about his issue, but we are now more knowledgeable about it, and he even got some support on the matter in the end.

This work of "sensibilization" is much harder in the real world than on 'Poly, because RL people are much less politically interested, and much less socially liberal as well. However, the real world is where it's at



(if you wonder what our platform is, it's mostly about defense of public services and of worker rights, wealth redistribution through equal taxation on income from capital as income from work, more direct direct democracy at local level, mixed housing, etc. We make no reference to a communist society anymore, and we only vaguely hint to "changing society". As you can see, ideas that are absolutely dead and couldn't interest anybody )

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
I think you'd have been better with lowering the voting age instead. You're gonna go up against MADD now.

Yep, and it's also like the the Libertarian Party harps on legalizing all drugs. It makes you want to bang your head, because it is such a dumb political move. It marginalizes the movement, because you are seen as being wackos on an issue that most people have no symphathy for your views.

[Ramo]

Drinking age 16, driving age 20.

[Kuciwalker]

I'd much rather be able to drive than drink.

[SpencerH]

I always thought it was stupid that in the USA you could be called to fight in a war but couldnt have a beer when you got back home.

OTOH, I cant say that I agree with lowering the drinking age. It may be stupid to keep it at 21 but if it saves one fool kid then it's worth it.

[Ramo]

My gives a **** is broken. You can't run me over with alcohol.

[Kuciwalker]

Without alcohol, I'm a lot less likely to run you over.

[Ramo]

That's why we have laws against drinking and driving.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by SpencerH


OTOH, I cant say that I agree with lowering the drinking age. It may be stupid to keep it at 21 but if it saves one fool kid then it's worth it.

On that logic why not ban alcohol and tobacco altogether since if it saves "one fool adult then it's worth it"

We permit "adults" to be idiots, don't we??

[Kuciwalker]

No one should be able to drive

[Kidlicious]

imn nott as thiungk as yuou drunkj I am. Liyhret me dringk I m ean vote.

[Traianvs]

That is horrible. Not being able to drink alcohol till you're 21 I mean. Damn I wouldn't have drunk a single pint so far then!

no alcohol and grass = byebye sweet lazy college life!

[St Leo]

Alcohol

[Ben Kenobi]

Nice to see where your movement is headed.

Now what about lowering the age of consent to say, something more reasonable, or removing such age of consent to nothing, since we wish to remove all discrimination based on age.