Schiavo Thread Part Deux

[Imran Siddiqui]

Imran, check out the news on TV. I got this report about the testimony at the Federal hearing now being conducted from MSNBC.

I asked for a link, Ned. And from an unbiased site as well, please. I'll be generous... I'll accept a FOXNews one .

The money that Michael has spent from the million has not been spent in an effort to rehabillitate Terry, but is instead being used on lawyers to terminate her life

So who is paying to keep Terry alive? Michael is not a rich man. If it went all into legal fees, the $1+ million to keep Terry on the tube had to come from somewhere. It didn't come from the parents.

[Boris Godunov]

Oh jesus, every time someone new jumps into this, we have to dispel the same bull**** over and over.

Ned, look up the previous thread and read it. The right-wing propaganda you've spewed has all been refuted there.

Any notion that Terri Schiavo says ANYTHING is ridiculous. Her cerebral cortex is scar tissue. Any sounds she make are reflexive, not words. This has been testified to over and over again by numerous, independent court-appointed experts.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Oh jesus, every time someone new jumps into this, we have to dispel the same bull**** over and over.

Ned, look up the previous thread and read it. The right-wing propaganda you've spewed has all been refuted there.

Any notion that Terri Schiavo says ANYTHING is ridiculous. Her cerebral cortex is scar tissue. Any sounds she make are reflexive, not words. This has been testified to over and over again by numerous, independent court-appointed experts.

Right wing bull****? I said I heard this from the nurses themselves. I saw them on TV.

My only question is whether they are lying. If they are, why?

As to expert testimony, there is apparently a conflict given the more recent testimony by a "foremost" expert in the field.

Imran, I have no link to the Abrams report transcript for today. However, that is where I heard the description of the Mayo Clinic doctor that was to be submitted in today's hearing that is even now being conducted.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7283607/

[Sava]

this discussion wouldn't be complete without news from the Nedaverse

[Ned]

BTW, when presented with the new expert testimony, Judge Greer today denied the State's motion to reopen the case as he said that it made no difference to him whether Terry was a vegitable or conscious.

Ugh.

I think it makes a big difference ethically.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Ned
BTW, when presented with the new expert testimony, Judge Greer today denied the State's motion to reopen the case as he said that it made no difference to him whether Terry was a vegitable or conscious.

Ugh.

I think it makes a big difference ethically.

any proof?

so is this the new strategy for the RWer's? to slander Judge Greer?

I already read that his fundie baptist church expelled him.

[Ned]

nm

[Sava]

yeah that's what I thought

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Ned
Right wing bull****? I said I heard this from the nurses themselves. I saw them on TV.

I was referring specifically to your claims about the million dollars, which are patently not true. As for the nurses, where was their testimony in the past 15 years?

My only question is whether they are lying. If they are, why?

They aren't experts in neurology, they're nurses. Schiavo makes noises, but they are reflexive. People can interpret them to mean anything.

And they could also have sympathies for the Schindlers or be right-to-lifers, so that's why they could be lying. But the bottom line is that no one with a cerebral cortex like that is going to be saying anything.

As to expert testimony, there is apparently a conflict given the more recent testimony by a "foremost" expert in the field.

An "expert" who is not the foremost, and who has never actually examined Schiavo, only looked at her. Every doctor who has actually examined her, as we've repeated time and again, have concurred with it being PVS and that it is irreversible. These are independent, court-appointed experts we're talking about here, not people dredged up by one of the sides involved to parrot their particular agenda.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Sava
any proof?

so is this the new strategy for the RWer's? to slander Judge Greer?

I already read that his fundie baptist church expelled him.

If I were governor Bush, I would also file a motion to remove Judge Greer. He apparently is not listening.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Ned


If I were governor Bush, I would also file a motion to remove Judge Greer. He apparently is not listening.

and that motion would be subsequently laughed at and thrown out... further embarassing the Republican skull duggery

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Ned
BTW, when presented with the new expert testimony, Judge Greer today denied the State's motion to reopen the case as he said that it made no difference to him whether Terry was a vegitable or conscious.

Yeah, I'll need a source on that one, too. Sounds like BS to me.

Reminds of the claim made that the Schindlers had said that even if Terri had a living will, they'd be fighting this. I've found no support for that claim, either.

[Ned]

Sava, thanks for your vote of "confidence" in me.

As to the truth of the matters regarding Michael's money, I would also conduct an evidenciary hearing on that matter as well. We could then get to the truth, couldn't we?

[Ned]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


Yeah, I'll need a source on that one, too. Sounds like BS to me.

Reminds of the claim made that the Schindlers had said that even if Terri had a living will, they'd be fighting this. I've found no support for that claim, either.

I can't provide a link now, as it was on the Abrams report this afternoon. A transcript in not available at this time.

[Imran Siddiqui]

As to the truth of the matters regarding Michael's money, I would also conduct an evidenciary hearing on that matter as well. We could then get to the truth, couldn't we?

You don't think the parents would have fought the motive in court? Either they have the worst lawyer in the world, or they did and the court rejected their arguments.

Yeah, I'll need a source on that one, too. Sounds like BS to me.

Ditto.