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Originally posted by Sava
and that motion would be subsequently laughed at and thrown out... further embarassing the Republican skull duggery
Sava, it clearly is your opinion that this is a partisan issue. Since the Dems seem to be on board with rescuing Terry given their unanimous support in the US Senate and their even split in the house, on what basis do you make this claim?
Originally posted by Ned
Sava, thanks for your vote of "confidence" in me.
well when your points go against all the facts in the case, am I unreasonable to request proof?
As to the truth of the matters regarding Michael's money, I would also conduct an evidenciary hearing on that matter as well. We could then get to the truth, couldn't we?
on what grounds? this isn't North Korea, you can't just conduct hearings on people for no reason... he hasn't done anything illegal... in fact, he is the only one who seems to be following the law and the findings of the courts.
Originally posted by Ned
Sava, it clearly is your opinion that this is a partisan issue. Since the Dems seem to be on board with rescuing Terry given their unanimous support in the US Senate and their even split in the house, on what basis do you make this claim?
Probably the numerous polls which side with the courts over the Republicans in Congress and in Florida.
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Originally posted by Ned
As to the truth of the matters regarding Michael's money, I would also conduct an evidenciary hearing on that matter as well. We could then get to the truth, couldn't we?
But it's irrelevant, isn't it? Whether or not he has any money has no bearing on the legal aspect of the case, namely his power of attorney for his wife and ability to make the decision for her.
Why would Michael Schiavo turn down $1 million (or more) to hand her over to someone else, if he was out for money? The argument makes no sense and is just a means of smearing Schiavo by the right-wing.
Sava, it clearly is your opinion that this is a partisan issue. Since the Dems seem to be on board with rescuing Terry given their unanimous support in the US Senate and their even split in the house, on what basis do you make this claim?
you should read the other thread on this.... I addressed this already.
The Senate Dems are spineless pieces of **** that don't want to be seen as the party of "death".
This Republican Party is making a concerted effort to make this an issue. It has been proven with the memo to Republican Senators that ABCNews and MSNBC got a hold of.
As to Judge Greer, his latest ruling is now on appeal to the Florida Supreme Court. Let's see if Democrat-dominate Florida Supreme Court supports his ruling.
In addition, the Republicans waited until the oppertune time to call a voice vote. Only THREE Senators were in the Senate when the vote was quickly called and voted on.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Originally posted by Sava
The Senate Dems are spineless pieces of **** that don't want to be seen as the party of "death".
Disagree on this issue. They did the smart thing. They have to pick their battles, and this is not one that's necessary, as they know what the ultimate outcome will be. Had they fought it as a party, it really would give the GOP political ammunition with the base. Now that advantage has been diffused.
The Dems let their party members vote their conscience, the GOP whipped their people into line. The result is that, overwhelmingly, the public sees this as a GOP crusade that is wasting taxpayer resources on a matter that isn't their business.
Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
In addition, the Republicans waited until the oppertune time to call a voice vote. Only THREE Senators were in the Senate when the vote was quickly called and voted on.
Hadn't heard that. How is that possible? Don't you have to have quorum to pass any bill in either chamber?
Originally posted by Sava
you should read the other thread on this.... I addressed this already.
The Senate Dems are spineless pieces of **** that don't want to be seen as the party of "death".
This Republican Party is making a concerted effort to make this an issue. It has been proven with the memo to Republican Senators that ABCNews and MSNBC got a hold of.
No doubt that Republicans are pressing this issue. But the Dems are not united in opposition. Many, even if not a majority of Dems, are supportive.
What is Hillary's take? She is the most likely next Dem presidential nominee.
What is Dean's take. He, after all, is a doctor as well and may have been in this same position many time during his active practice days.
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The Senate approved the measure on Sunday by voice vote in a nearly empty chamber.
I think a voice vote doesn't need a quorum.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Originally posted by Ned
No doubt that Republicans are pressing this issue. But the Dems are not united in opposition. Many, even if not a majority of Dems, are supportive.
Boris's interpretation of things makes sense.
What is Hillary's take? She is the most likely next Dem presidential nominee.
What is Dean's take. He, after all, is a doctor as well and may have been in this same position many time during his active practice days.
I really don't care what their opinions are. In fact, I think it's inappropriate for them (or any politician) to make a big about this publicly. It's a private medical decision, and it's really not anyone's place to interfere. It's a travesty that the Republicans pissed on the Constitution just in an effort to please the right-to-life nutbags.
On the politics issue, clearly there are a lot of Dem and Repub activists on both sides who are trying to make this a partisan issue. So far, the National Democrat Party seems to be either supportive of rescuing Terry or at least neutral. This could be a reaction to Hillary's move to the right as she positions herself for the next election.
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