Age rights- draw your lines

[Sava]

Originally posted by DanS


Something like 70-80% of people own their houses nowadays. Those are the kind of people who should be calling the shots, because they will be less inclined to harm their own long-term interests.

yikes so only property owners should run things?

I think that was called, Feudalism.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by DanS


Something like 70-80% of people own their houses nowadays. Those are the kind of people who should be calling the shots, because they will be less inclined to harm their own long-term interests.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/timelines/england/pwar_poll_tax.shtml

[DanS]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/news/...s.asp?id=28386

And less than 22% of the total would be younger than 21, the age that I gave for voting. Compare to Vietnam, f.e.

[DanS]

What's poll taxes have to do with anything on which I've opined?

[Sava]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
In fact, I'm pretty sure that the average age of casualties today is lower than it was in WWII or WWI...

I don't know about that...

I haven't yet found figures for WW2 or WW1, but for vietnam

While the average age of casualties in Vietnam was 20, the average age of casualties in the Iraq war is 27, due largely to the fact that many of the troops are older reservists.

from http://www.generationalconsulting.co...er.pdf#search='average%20age%20of%20casualties'

[KrazyHorse]

And less than that are older than 35.

Nice of you to tell people 18-21 that they're fine for dying on the frontlines but can't be trusted to have one vote in 150 million.

[KrazyHorse]

Voter registration today. Only white male property owners need apply.

[DanS]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
In fact, I'm pretty sure that the average age of casualties today is lower than it was in WWII or WWI...

Well, in the U.S., the voting age was lowered to 18 during Vietnam, so...

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by DanS
What's poll taxes have to do with anything on which I've opined?

They have to do with the idea that economic status should have some bearing on the right to vote.

[Solver]

First of all, I do not support age lines, but I realise that, because there is no way to evaluate each individual separately, some kind of a line has to be drawn.

1- Leave full-time education.
16. By that age, secondary school is probably finished, and if the guy doesn't want to learn, no point forcing him to anyway.
2- Drive a car.
16
3- Drive a heavy goods vehicle or bus.
3 years of driving experience without accidents.
4- Work a 12-hour shift down a coal mine.
18 (hopefully fit enough by then)
5- Have sex.
14 with others aged 14-18. 18 with anyone aged 16+.
6- Buy porn.
14. Come on, they're gonna get all the porn they want anyway.
7- Appear in porn in an obvious state of physical arousal.
18. It's just sick before that.
8- Get married.
18. I'd like an additional rule, though, where at least one of the two engaging in marriage have a steady income source.
9- See front-line service in the army.
20, but volunteer joining only.
10- Own a 12-bore shotgun.
Never. There is no need for civilians to own SPAS12, M16, AK47 or M82 (god forbid) or any such weaponry.
11- Vote.
I'd say 18 for elections as in Parlament/Presidental, but 21 for referendums that amend constiution (such as the vote for EU was here).
12- Become President.
30.
13- Have a credit card, personal loan or mortgage.
18
14- Adopt children.
25
15- Gamble.
21
16- Get executed.
Never.
17- Buy a pet. Like a Pit Bull or a Python, or something.
I support a ban on any aggressive dog breeds... but 21.

[JohnT]

Re: Age rights- draw your lines

1- Leave full-time education. 16

2- Drive a car. 16

3- Drive a heavy goods vehicle or bus. 21

4- Work a 12-hour shift down a coal mine. 21

5- Have sex. 12

6- Buy porn. 16

7- Appear in porn in an obvious state of physical arousal. 18

8- Get married. 18

9- See front-line service in the army. 18

10- Own a 12-bore shotgun. 18

11- Vote. 18

12- Become President. 35

13- Have a credit card, personal loan or mortgage. 18

14- Adopt children. 21

15- Gamble. 18

16- Get executed. 18

17- Buy a pet. Like a Pit Bull or a Python, or something. 21

[Japher]

Never. There is no need for civilians to own SPAS12, M16, AK47 or M82 (god forbid) or any such weaponry

What if you're a bad shot, or blind!!!?

support a ban on any aggressive dog breeds

Shows what you know... there is no such thing as an aggressive dog breed.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by DanS


Well, in the U.S., the voting age was lowered to 18 during Vietnam, so...

And it did so in Canada too.

Except we weren't in Vietnam...

It was simply an acknowledgement that along with responsibilities come rights.

18 year olds have every legal responsibility that you do. Their parents might relieve them of the burden of paying for themselves, just as there are some housewives in the US who never lift a finger outside the home. Doesn't mean we disenfranchise those without jobs...

[DanS]

They have to do with the idea that economic status should have some bearing on the right to vote.

Only indirectly, through age. I never suggested a poll tax, so that's a red herring.

[Dis]

1- Leave full-time education.: 18

2- Drive a car.: 18

3- Drive a heavy goods vehicle or bus.: 21

4- Work a 12-hour shift down a coal mine.: never

5- Have sex.: 16

6- Buy porn.: 16

7- Appear in porn in an obvious state of physical arousal.: 16

8- Get married.: 16

9- See front-line service in the army.:18

10- Own a 12-bore shotgun.: 18

11- Vote.: 16

12- Become President.: 35

13- Have a credit card, personal loan or mortgage.: 18

14- Adopt children. 21

15- Gamble.: 18

16- Get executed.: never

17- Buy a pet. Like a Pit Bull or a Python, or something.: 18