Age rights- draw your lines

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Evening, slags!

Seeing as we've been bouncing around the topic of youth rights recently, largely courtesy of our one-"man" (if that's not an ageist label) political lobby group Ozzy, let's get some personal lines drawn. What do you think the age limits for the following should be? Feel free to impose lower and/or upper limits if you think it's appropriate, and elaborate as much as you feel inclined to.

Oh yes- knowing Poly, I expect to see lots of suggestions that age limits should be abolished and replaced by some sort of selection board to determine whether sufficient levels of maturity are being displayed. If you feel that way, please feel free to annotate your responses with the phrase "I wouldn't recognise pragmatism even if it had spent the past millennium with my genitals in its mouth".

Here they go!

1- Leave full-time education.

2- Drive a car.

3- Drive a heavy goods vehicle or bus.

4- Work a 12-hour shift down a coal mine.

5- Have sex.

6- Buy porn.

7- Appear in porn in an obvious state of physical arousal.

8- Get married.

9- See front-line service in the army.

10- Own a 12-bore shotgun.

11- Vote.

12- Become President.

13- Have a credit card, personal loan or mortgage.

14- Adopt children.

15- Gamble.

16- Get executed.

17- Buy a pet. Like a Pit Bull or a Python, or something.

[St Leo]

Re: Age rights- draw your lines

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
1- Leave full-time education.

19

2- Drive a car.

16

3- Drive a heavy goods vehicle or bus.

25

4- Work a 12-hour shift down a coal mine.

Never

5- Have sex.

With whom?
12 for peers
19 for any age
Grace period for trans-19 romances

6- Buy porn.

14

7- Appear in porn in an obvious state of physical arousal.

16

8- Get married.

25

9- See front-line service in the army.

25

10- Own a 12-bore shotgun.

Never

11- Vote.

16

12- Become President.

25

13- Have a credit card, personal loan or mortgage.

19

14- Adopt children.

25

15- Gamble.

19

16- Get executed.

Never

17- Buy a pet. Like a Pit Bull or a Python, or something.

25

[Stefu]

Shouldn't you have included "buy alcohol" and "buy tobacco" in there somewhere?

[Kropotkin]

Nice of you to have my cat as an avatar, didn't know you knew him.

1- Leave full-time education.
Eh what? You leave when you're finished, I was 25.

2- Drive a car.
18

3- Drive a heavy goods vehicle or bus.
A few years driving experience.

4- Work a 12-hour shift down a coal mine.
10

5- Have sex.
When you're ready for the responsibility.

6- Buy porn.
Zero

7- Appear in porn in an obvious state of physical arousal.
18

8- Get married.
18

9- See front-line service in the army.
18

10- Own a 12-bore shotgun.
18 - if you got a hunting licence

11- Vote.
18

12- Become President.
18

13- Have a credit card, personal loan or mortgage.
18

14- Adopt children.
18

15- Gamble.
15 - with your own money and without credit

16- Get executed.
Nope. No age limit for suicide.

17- Buy a pet. Like a Pit Bull or a Python, or something.
18 without parental premission.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Stefu
Shouldn't you have included "buy alcohol" and "buy tobacco" in there somewhere?

Sorry- I grew up in Somerset. I forgot that in some foreign parts age limits may apply to those healthy childhood pastimes.

[DanS]

1- Leave full-time education.

18

2- Drive a car.

14

3- Drive a heavy goods vehicle or bus.

21

4- Work a 12-hour shift down a coal mine.

18

5- Have sex.

16

6- Buy porn.

18

7- Appear in porn in an obvious state of physical arousal.

18

8- Get married.

16

9- See front-line service in the army.

18

10- Own a 12-bore shotgun.

14

11- Vote.

21

12- Become President.

40

13- Have a credit card, personal loan or mortgage.

18

14- Adopt children.

30

15- Gamble.

21

16- Get executed.

I don't support execution, but if I did, the age would be 16

17- Buy a pet. Like a Pit Bull or a Python, or something.

0

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by DanS


17- Buy a pet. Like a Pit Bull or a Python, or something.

0

"Mummy! Mummy! I've bought a leopard!"

[Peter Triggs]

Re: Re: Age rights- draw your lines

Originally posted by St Leo

8- Get married.

25

9- See front-line service in the army.

25

Yes, I see your reasoning here.

[DanS]

"Mummy! Mummy! I've bought a leopard!"

Kid's got to learn how to treat animals sometime!

[Krill]

Krill

[size]Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp[/size]
1- Leave full-time education.

15

2- Drive a car.

17

3- Drive a heavy goods vehicle or bus.

21

4- Work a 12-hour shift down a coal mine.

21

5- Have sex.

With whom?
14 for peers
17 for any age

6- Buy porn.

14

7- Appear in porn in an obvious state of physical arousal.

17

8- Get married.

18

9- See front-line service in the army.

23

10- Own a 12-bore shotgun.

Never

11- Vote.

Never...

12- Become President.

Better to put head of state/leader of country. 21

13- Have a credit card, personal loan or mortgage.

17

14- Adopt children.

21

15- Gamble.

Never

16- Get executed.

17

17- Buy a pet. Like a Pit Bull or a Python, or something.

21

[Immortal Wombat]

Leave full-time education.
16- largely because if 16 years olds really don't want to be educated, they're quite likely to make the last two years of school worse for those who do.

Drive a car.
16

Drive a heavy goods vehicle or bus.
Probably 18 would be the minimum, if they've been driving since 16. I think this should be an abilities thing rather than age-based. I wouldn't feel comfortable driving a bus at 20, but I know 18 year olds who would, and who could drive it well given the training.

Work a 12-hour shift down a coal mine.
16, but ideally separate legislation on working conditions would render this impossible anyway.

Have sex, Buy porn
14
Though personally I would probably discourage 14 year olds from exercising these liberties.

Appear in porn in an obvious state of physical arousal.
18

Get married.
16

See front-line service in the army.
18

Own a 12-bore shotgun.
18

Vote.
16

Become President.
25

Have a credit card, personal loan or mortgage.
16

Adopt children.
25

Gamble.
16

Get executed.
16, although again, ideally this should also be impossible.

Buy a pet. Like a Pit Bull or a Python, or something.
16

Drink alcohol
12

Buy alcohol, tobacco
16


So
16: rights granted to allow the individual to live their life
18: rights granted to allow the individual to **** up their life
25: rights granted to allow the individual control over other lives

[Odin]

1- Leave full-time education.
18

2- Drive a car.
16

3- Drive a heavy goods vehicle or bus.
18 with proper training

4- Work a 12-hour shift down a coal mine.
20

5- Have sex.
12

6- Buy porn.
12

7- Appear in porn in an obvious state of physical arousal.
softcore-16
hardcore-18

8- Get married.
21

9- See front-line service in the army.
19

10- Own a 12-bore shotgun.
18

11- Vote.
16

12- Become President.
25

13- Have a credit card, personal loan or mortgage.
18

14- Adopt children.
21

15- Gamble.
18

16- Get executed.
18, and only for trason and terrorism

17- Buy a pet. Like a Pit Bull or a Python, or something.
18




Buy and consume alcohol
Buy alcohol-18
Consume alcohol-15 with parent's permission

buy and use tobacco and recreational drugs
18

Run for Congress
18 for House
21 for Senate

Get abortion
no age limit, so pregant teens are protected from fundy parents.

[KrazyHorse]

1- Leave full-time education.

16

2- Drive a car.

16

3- Drive a heavy goods vehicle or bus.

18

4- Work a 12-hour shift down a coal mine.

18

5- Have sex.

Full age of consent at 16. Limited consent younger than that.

6- Buy porn.

16

7- Appear in porn in an obvious state of physical arousal.

18

8- Get married.

18

9- See front-line service in the army.

18

10- Own a 12-bore shotgun.

18

11- Vote.

18

12- Become President.

18

13- Have a credit card, personal loan or mortgage.

18

14- Adopt children.

18

15- Gamble.

18

16- Get executed.

Ideally never. There's no valid reason to keep capital punishment around. In societies which are sick enough to enjoy murdering their own citizens, 18 is as fair an age as you can get.

17- Buy a pet. Like a Pit Bull or a Python, or something.

18

Should be added to your list: get an abortion

[Immortal Wombat]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Should be added to your list: get an abortion

Isn't it counterproductive for that to be anything other than the age of consent?

[KrazyHorse]

Re: Re: Age rights- draw your lines

Originally posted by St Leo

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
5- Have sex.

With whom?
12 for peers
19 for any age
Grace period for trans-19 romances

6- Buy porn.

14

7- Appear in porn in an obvious state of physical arousal.

16

This makes no sense. So you can appear in porn at the age of 16, but you can only be filmed doing it with other 16 year olds? Sort of silly...