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Actually, I agree on the drinking at age 18, but on different grounds than some ridiculous "consistency" argument that you've trotted out.
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I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891 -
I happen to think it's good to be consistent...To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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Incidentally, there's a long history of drinking and voting. No less a personage than George Washington got his whole constituency drunk as a campaign gift on election day.
We need consistent drinking and voting laws. 21.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Some people think that it's a good idea when studying law and morality to have a set of fundamental principles which are then applied to specific questions to provide answers.Originally posted by DanS
Actually, I agree on the drinking at age 18, but on different grounds than some ridiculous "consistency" argument that you've trotted out.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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please feel free to annotate your responses with the phrase "I wouldn't recognise pragmatism even if it had spent the past millennium with my genitals in its mouth"I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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pragmatic?
as long as it fits in DanS's ownership society ideology, right?
To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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So you want to disenfranchise approximately 6% of the US voting age public (who already have one of the lowest participation rates) based on pragmatic reasons?
12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
Ultima Ratio RegumComment
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Precisely so. They don't vote because they are away at college and don't feel they have a sufficient stake in society to force themselves to vote.who already have one of the lowest participation ratesI came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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that's reasoning based upon your sick ideology, DanS... that's not pragmatism.don't feel they have a sufficient stake in societyTo us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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So where's the pragmatic necessity in taking away their vote?Originally posted by DanS
Precisely so. They don't vote because they are away at college and don't feel they have a sufficient stake in society to force themselves to vote.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
Ultima Ratio RegumComment
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Where's the pragmatic necessity of giving them the vote?I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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I didn't say there was one. I said it was a question of idealism.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
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Come on, Dan. You're making this too easy...
Either you're arguing from pragmatism or idealism
If you're arguing from pragmatism then show me your pragmatic reasons
If you're arguing from idealism then you should probably be consistent...12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
Ultima Ratio RegumComment
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As I read it, you said it was a question of consistency.I said it was a question of idealism.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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maybe consistency is his idealTo us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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