Taiwan: Would War be viable?

[PLATO]

The question is: Will China stop at Taiwan if we don't defend it? They have already grabbed Tibet and part of India. They have invaded North Vietnam and set up a client state in North Korea. Now they threaten Austrailia if they even come out as supporting us? Not to mention that the number one espionage threat in the USA is China.

People better start giving a **** or better start learning Chinese. A stand must be made somewhere. I would prefer to do it in the straits of Taiwan as opposed to the beaches of California. Not to mention the fact that we would be defending a democratic country from an authoritarian government.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


"Democratic" and "warmongering" are not mutually exclusive. The US is a prime example of this.

Undemocratic and warmongering...China is a prime example of this.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Smiley
Invasion is completely not viable- the US has a hard enough time with Afghanistan and Iraq, and the US is even willing to offer elections and promises eventual independence. To occupy a heavily urbanized nation with a larger population would be costly and difficult.

See you are missing the point. In order to win you don't have to invade China you just have to keep them out of Taiwan and bomb the crap out of them/embargo them until they get tired and give up.

[Sava]

hahaha PLATO is paranoid... you smoke pot PLATO?

[Thucydides]

As a student of the Chinese language (as well as a practioner of Chinese martial arts), I'll welcome the glorious Chinese Army when they arrive in California, and offer my services to help keep the American rabble in line

[Dinner]

As long as we're talking about China the BBC has a nice article about how China continues to be an oppressive police state. Even the rule of law is questionable.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4326341.stm

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Sava
hahaha PLATO is paranoid... you smoke pot PLATO?

Not in many, many years.

...but I am paranoid about China.

[Bosh]

set up a client state in North Korea

No they haven't.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Boshko

No they haven't.

Yeah, Dear Leader just goes against Beijing all the time.

...or have we not noticed that he only "defies" Beijing when it just happens to be in Beijings greater interest?

[Bosh]

Originally posted by PLATO


Yeah, Dear Leader just goes against Beijing all the time.

...or have we not noticed that he only "defies" Beijing when it just happens to be in Beijings greater interest?

Well back during the Cold War, the NKoreans were quite good at playing the Ruskies and the Chinese off against each other, of course since then the NKoreans are a bit more dependent on the Chinese, but the Dear Leader is to bat**** crazy to be a client state. A client state would cause less diplomatic headaches for the chinese.

[Dinner]

North Korea is kept alive via a life line from China. Food, oil, electricity, coal, and raw materials are all given free of charge in order to prevent the North from imploding. Let's also not forget that the only reason there has been a North Korea is because the Chinese invaded Korea.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Boshko

A client state would cause less diplomatic headaches for the chinese.

What diplomatic headaches? Everything they have done has only pissed of China's ultimate foes. North Korea having nukes and snubbing the US is a headache for who? The US far more than China I say. Net gain...China.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by Oerdin
As long as we're talking about China the BBC has a nice article about how China continues to be an oppressive police state. Even the rule of law is questionable.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4326341.stm

Can't access the BBC from the mainland.


So much bullying, and China has yet to build a formidable enough military to back it up. Chilling view of things to come?

[Combat Ingrid]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Let's also not forget that the only reason there has been a North Korea is because the Chinese invaded Korea.

Didn't you know that China is the most peaceful and humble country? They have never invaded anyone

[GePap]

Originally posted by Oerdin
North Korea is kept alive via a life line from China. Food, oil, electricity, coal, and raw materials are all given free of charge in order to prevent the North from imploding. Let's also not forget that the only reason there has been a North Korea is because the Chinese invaded Korea.

That does not make NK a client state anymore than Haiti is a client state of the US (or was int he 90's). Just like the uS does not want refugees, China does not want refugees, and a split Korea is also a weaker Korea, so it serves two purposes. That does not make it as client- if it were a client, why would it need nukes? A client state would never get nukes.