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  • #16
    Its an unecessarily provocative law, just because as Dracon said its pretty clear that for the most part China would attack if Taiwan delacred independence. I think the is the legal equivalent of shooting missiles into the straits.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by One_Mean_Rabbit


      Actually, China would have a FAR easier time occupying a country than the US. While we take all reasonable effort to not hurt innocents
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      • #18
        China has a problem. In order to conquor Taiwan they first have to get to Taiwan. That means they'd either have to go by air or by sea both of which are weak points for the Chinese military. Taiwan has as many modern Aircraft as China does so the addition of two US carrier battle groups should more then tip the scales in Taiwan's favor when it comes to stopping an invasion.

        Taiwan does have a long term problem though in that the Chinese are massively increasing military spending so in the next decade or so Taiwan is going to be left in the dust.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by techumseh
          Its amazing that some people actually believe that China would kill less non-combatants than the US in a war.
          “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.â€

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          • #20
            never mind
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            • #21
              Go back to sleep
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              • #22
                Taiwanese independence
                Chinese independence
                World War III
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                • #23
                  We apologized to China when they took Americans hostage. Does anyone think it remotely possible that we are going to do anything for Taiwan besides continue to sell them weapons?
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                  • #24
                    Is it politically viable for the US not to?
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                    • #25
                      Yes. Since the Carter administration.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Whaleboy
                        Is it politically viable for the US not to?
                        Why wouldn't it be? Is it politically viable for the EU to sell weapons to China?
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by pchang


                          Its amazing that some people actually believe that China would kill less non-combatants than the US in a war.
                          Didn't suggest that, don't really know. It's the "While we take all reasonable effort to not hurt innocents..." bit.
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                          • #28
                            Why wouldn't it be? Is it politically viable for the EU to sell weapons to China?
                            I hardly think the two are equable. One is a business deal of relatively little public significance, the other is a potential superpower war. To have the US publically stand by and succumb to the evil gayliberal pacifists while a bastion of democracy is invaded by the infidel commies.... be honest with yourself, it's not going to happen.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Whaleboy
                              I hardly think the two are equable. One is a business deal ...
                              That effects the strategic balance between the "bastion of democracy" and the 2 main powers in the region. So yes, I think the two are equable.

                              Originally posted by Whaleboy
                              To have the US publically stand by and succumb to the evil gayliberal pacifists while a bastion of democracy is invaded brave American servicemen are held hostage by the infidel commies.... be honest with yourself, it's not going to happen.
                              Is that what you would have said in 2000?
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                              • #30
                                The Chinese can go f*ck themselves. If China wants Taiwan back China should become a democracy that does not violate human and political rights of it's citizens. I find the prospect of a undemocratic industrialized China with a strong millitary terrifying.

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