What would it take to make you happy, TODAY?

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi




The question I think you need to ask, is why do you feel that your church doesn't have the answers for you any more. What discouraged you so much as to be unsure of what the church teaches?



You've remarried, and if he still practices, it's a tough spot that you've put him in.

Bk The church has led me to believe there is an almighty god that protects all of us as children and on thru adult hood. I have lived through alot i havent stated here and told tubes i wouldnt state this facts however the acts were very traumatzing and i havent began to forgive god for letting them happen to me. I have also stated before that tubes and I are not legally married. We live as husband and wife and wear rings but have had no formal or on formal cermony. I told my ex to do what he has to do but i will not stand for the names and being of my kids being denounced in the church. For it is him that is giving them their relegious teaching. If you want more details on my relegious fallouts ill pm them to you if you dont want to know then i wont.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Sava
c-o-n-d-o-l-e-n-c-e-s

s-t-f-u

[Ted Striker]

T-e-d--S-t-r-i-k-e-r--

[Mrs. Tuberski]

I see the spelling police are out in full force better watch my A** today

[Provost Harrison]

It's like the Fourth Reich is here...

[Drogue]

Oooh, what would make me happy. Well, I'm a contented fellow at the moment - I have alcohol, innocent smoothies, criossants, gorgeous cookies, chocolate, a computer, a bed, some nice music and I'm chatting to a girl I adore. I could do with a hug, but I'll see her soon, so that's all good Plus less work would be nice, but I know it'll payoff, and my AIESECy things are going well. Plus the two scarily hot girls who call me Mr. President (they're two of the vice presidents, it's a joke thing), which does *so* much for my ego

But yes, I'd say most is good. Though in a week, without uni and with Gemma, it'll be even better.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

at this moment it would make me happy if tubes could get this wood to burn so I could have a fire in my fire place.

[Sava]

Provost:

Ted Striker:

Mrs. Tubes: fire in the fireplace!

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
at this moment it would make me happy if tubes could get this wood to burn so I could have a fire in my fire place.

HEY!! I was never a Boy Scout, feel lucky the fire is in the fireplace and not the entertainment center.



ACK!

[Provost Harrison]

Stop it Drogue, you're going to make me want to vom at this rate

[Ben Kenobi]

Mrs. Tubes:

Whatever you feel comfortable with, is fine with me.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi




Do we really want to hear about what Paul ate for breakfast every day in his journal? All historians do this, and the Christian Gospels are no different. Each writer writes for an audience, and each Gospel is different from the others as a result.

Aren't you making a rather big assumption, that Paul's epistles are of the same nature as the journals of the Goncourt Brothers, or Samuel Pepys's diaries ? They aren't, of course.


The issue is whether or not historians of ancient times lied. Eusebius condemns himself out of his own mouth, as do the others. They lied as much as the Romans who dreamt up a descent from Troy, or fabricated Romulus and Remus, or the English historians with their ludicrous attributions to Brut.

Whether or not you disagree with them, doctrinally or otherwise, is magnificently irrelevant.

The Bible is not objective 'history', it is an historical text, altered, selected, and with a propagandistic purpose.

No surprises as to where the notion or idea of propaganda as we know it came from as Pope Gregory XV created a 'Sacred Congregation de Propaganda Fide (for the propagation of the faith)' in 1622. Of course, the propaganda machine had been working long before that, fabricating the Donation of Constantine to justify temporal powers for a worldly church.

Plus ca change...

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Agathon
[q]
Bias in ancient historical writers is the first fact you learn when you study them. Herodotus talks all sorts of crap. Yet very few of them come up with the miraculous garbage of the Bible.

Homer? The Mahabharata?

[Agathon]

Homer?

Loosely based on history... very loosely.

Look - Some Greek historian exaggerating the size of the Persian army or claiming that people with eyes in the backs of their heads exist in Hyperborea or some such place is bollocks.

But it's not religiously motivated bollocks.

The Bible is bollocks from start to finish, and records events that no rational person can believe in.

If every Bible was burned, the world would be a better place.*

* Oh.. all right.. we can keep the passage about Ox-goring.

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Stop it Drogue, you're going to make me want to vom at this rate

It doesn't usually take me to make you vomit