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  • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi




    The question I think you need to ask, is why do you feel that your church doesn't have the answers for you any more. What discouraged you so much as to be unsure of what the church teaches?



    You've remarried, and if he still practices, it's a tough spot that you've put him in.
    Bk The church has led me to believe there is an almighty god that protects all of us as children and on thru adult hood. I have lived through alot i havent stated here and told tubes i wouldnt state this facts however the acts were very traumatzing and i havent began to forgive god for letting them happen to me. I have also stated before that tubes and I are not legally married. We live as husband and wife and wear rings but have had no formal or on formal cermony. I told my ex to do what he has to do but i will not stand for the names and being of my kids being denounced in the church. For it is him that is giving them their relegious teaching. If you want more details on my relegious fallouts ill pm them to you if you dont want to know then i wont.
    When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
    "It can't rain all the time"-Eric Draven
    Being dyslexic is hard work. I don't even try anymore.

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    • Originally posted by Sava
      c-o-n-d-o-l-e-n-c-e-s
      s-t-f-u
      Speaking of Erith:

      "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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      • T-e-d--S-t-r-i-k-e-r--
        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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        • I see the spelling police are out in full force better watch my A** today
          When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
          "It can't rain all the time"-Eric Draven
          Being dyslexic is hard work. I don't even try anymore.

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          • It's like the Fourth Reich is here...
            Speaking of Erith:

            "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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            • Oooh, what would make me happy. Well, I'm a contented fellow at the moment - I have alcohol, innocent smoothies, criossants, gorgeous cookies, chocolate, a computer, a bed, some nice music and I'm chatting to a girl I adore. I could do with a hug, but I'll see her soon, so that's all good Plus less work would be nice, but I know it'll payoff, and my AIESECy things are going well. Plus the two scarily hot girls who call me Mr. President (they're two of the vice presidents, it's a joke thing), which does *so* much for my ego

              But yes, I'd say most is good. Though in a week, without uni and with Gemma, it'll be even better.
              Smile
              For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
              But he would think of something

              "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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              • at this moment it would make me happy if tubes could get this wood to burn so I could have a fire in my fire place.
                When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
                "It can't rain all the time"-Eric Draven
                Being dyslexic is hard work. I don't even try anymore.

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                • Provost:

                  Ted Striker:

                  Mrs. Tubes: fire in the fireplace!
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
                    at this moment it would make me happy if tubes could get this wood to burn so I could have a fire in my fire place.
                    HEY!! I was never a Boy Scout, feel lucky the fire is in the fireplace and not the entertainment center.



                    ACK!
                    Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                    • Stop it Drogue, you're going to make me want to vom at this rate
                      Speaking of Erith:

                      "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                      • Mrs. Tubes:

                        Whatever you feel comfortable with, is fine with me.
                        Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                        "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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                        • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi




                          Do we really want to hear about what Paul ate for breakfast every day in his journal? All historians do this, and the Christian Gospels are no different. Each writer writes for an audience, and each Gospel is different from the others as a result.
                          Aren't you making a rather big assumption, that Paul's epistles are of the same nature as the journals of the Goncourt Brothers, or Samuel Pepys's diaries ? They aren't, of course.


                          The issue is whether or not historians of ancient times lied. Eusebius condemns himself out of his own mouth, as do the others. They lied as much as the Romans who dreamt up a descent from Troy, or fabricated Romulus and Remus, or the English historians with their ludicrous attributions to Brut.

                          Whether or not you disagree with them, doctrinally or otherwise, is magnificently irrelevant.

                          The Bible is not objective 'history', it is an historical text, altered, selected, and with a propagandistic purpose.

                          No surprises as to where the notion or idea of propaganda as we know it came from as Pope Gregory XV created a 'Sacred Congregation de Propaganda Fide (for the propagation of the faith)' in 1622. Of course, the propaganda machine had been working long before that, fabricating the Donation of Constantine to justify temporal powers for a worldly church.

                          Plus ca change...
                          Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                          ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                          • Originally posted by Agathon
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                            Bias in ancient historical writers is the first fact you learn when you study them. Herodotus talks all sorts of crap. Yet very few of them come up with the miraculous garbage of the Bible.
                            Homer? The Mahabharata?
                            The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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                            • Homer?
                              Loosely based on history... very loosely.

                              Look - Some Greek historian exaggerating the size of the Persian army or claiming that people with eyes in the backs of their heads exist in Hyperborea or some such place is bollocks.

                              But it's not religiously motivated bollocks.

                              The Bible is bollocks from start to finish, and records events that no rational person can believe in.

                              If every Bible was burned, the world would be a better place.*

                              * Oh.. all right.. we can keep the passage about Ox-goring.
                              Only feebs vote.

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                              • Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                                Stop it Drogue, you're going to make me want to vom at this rate
                                It doesn't usually take me to make you vomit
                                Smile
                                For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
                                But he would think of something

                                "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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