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  • #46
    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


    Um.. where in the WORLD did you hear this? The spouse testimony exemption is an evidence rule based on STATE LAW! It depends on your state and many have gotten rid of it.

    Plus-- I thought the idea was that a spouse could not be COMPELLED to give evidence against another spouse but that they are free to do so if they do so willingly
    You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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    • #47
      Kidicious . ..

      best wishes to you as you go through a trying time.

      The advice to seek out both father's rights groups and university legal assistance are both good ones. You need good legal advice quickly and I would be suprised if these organizations can't help you out
      You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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      • #48
        Originally posted by chegitz guevara
        7th grade Constitution class.
        And people wonder why our school suck so bad .

        I can't even imagine where in the Constitution such a provision would arise from. Substantive due process? I guess that's the closest.

        Originally posted by Flubber
        Plus-- I thought the idea was that a spouse could not be COMPELLED to give evidence against another spouse but that they are free to do so if they do so willingly
        That as well... just about every state allows a spouse to testify against the other spouse if they wants.
        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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        • #49
          May I ask, what type of "drugs" are we referring to?
          "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
          "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


            Um.. where in the WORLD did you hear this? The spouse testimony exemption is an evidence rule based on STATE LAW! It depends on your state and many have gotten rid of it.
            pardon, I thought it was a common law exclusion, and thus present in all US states (except Louisiana?) unless altered by state law. So its not surprising someone confused it with a Constitutional provision.

            also why its familiar to our Canadian friends
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            • #51
              fight for your rights kid.
              "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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              • #52
                Originally posted by lord of the mark


                pardon, I thought it was a common law exclusion, and thus present in all US states (except Louisiana?) unless altered by state law. So its not surprising someone confused it with a Constitutional provision.

                also why its familiar to our Canadian friends
                Not to quibble, and I certainly cannot speak to US law but....

                It is a protection found in the Canada Evidence Act (section 4 if you care).
                "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by lord of the mark
                  pardon, I thought it was a common law exclusion, and thus present in all US states (except Louisiana?) unless altered by state law. So its not surprising someone confused it with a Constitutional provision.

                  also why its familiar to our Canadian friends
                  Every state except Louisiana is a common law state, so common law is a part of 49 states' laws.
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #54
                    Kidicious - are you leaving out a detail, or am I ignorant on something. Is there a court order granting her custody? Once there is you have a hidious uphill battle, even if you are in another juristiction, of getting custody.

                    If not, there is something I don't understand - if you have the child, how can she have the police come and force you to turn him over to her? In California is there a presumption of the mother having custody. By the way, I wouldn't recommend forcing the issue if it hasn't been decided, because of what other posters said about you already starting at a disadvantage.

                    Do not just call the police like you suggest. BAD THOUGHT. They will blow you off as an angry husband. You must be very careful, and thoughtful about this. Wait until you have a slam dunk - I like the posters suggestion about bring a friend over who then calls the police and/or CPS - I prefer CPS because they have alot fewer restrictions on what they can do (something I am opposed to but in you case I hope you can use it to offset the systems mommy-based bias). Conversely, the police should contact CPS if, after finding the drugs, you explain there is a child in the house who could have gotten into them, yours, and thats why you called. God bless and good luck.
                    The worst form of insubordination is being right - Keith D., marine veteran. A dictator will starve to the last civilian - self-quoted
                    And on the eigth day, God realized it was Monday, and created caffeine. And behold, it was very good. - self-quoted
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                      The reason why you can't simply tell the police about where to find her drugs is because the Constitution does not allow spouses to testify against each other. The Framers didn't want the government to be able to force spouses to betray each other.

                      You could, however, bring a friend over to see the drugs, and that person could tell the police.
                      1) Not the constitution; state laws and legal precedent, as Imran points out.

                      2) More to th point, the law is designed to keep spouses from being compelled to testify against each other. If a spouse wants to testify against her, he can. (Otherwise, how on earth would you ever prosecute spousal abuse cases?). I think kid needs to look into this; it sounds like bull to me.
                      "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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                      • #56
                        Og,

                        He's 6.

                        Wezil,

                        She prefers to smoke crank.

                        Shawn,

                        There's no preexisting custody order. I had to let her see our son and take him were she pleases, because there were no custody orders. Otherwise I would be guilty of abduction.
                        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                        • #57
                          Doesn't that apply to you also, i.e. you can see your son and take him where you please? Then again, I forget that you are X-chromosone challenged.

                          Good news - remember the mayor of DC - crack is the one that REALLY shows up very well in hair. They can even show if it was an isolated instance or a habit, and get a general idea on frequency of use. Take your time, DON'T let her force it to custody yet, find the good lawyer, and play it smart. I'll keep you and your child in my prayers.
                          The worst form of insubordination is being right - Keith D., marine veteran. A dictator will starve to the last civilian - self-quoted
                          And on the eigth day, God realized it was Monday, and created caffeine. And behold, it was very good. - self-quoted
                          Klaatu: I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it.
                          Mr. Harley: I'm afraid my people haven't. I'm very sorry… I wish it were otherwise.

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                          • #58
                            Crank, not crack.
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • #59
                              Yeah, get it straight.
                              Monkey!!!

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                              • #60
                                Crank = methanphetimine, iirc
                                Crack = cocaine
                                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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