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Originally posted by DinoDoc
He's a Syrian citizen.
He fled Syria at the tender age of 16.
I suppose it would have been all right for us to deport dual US/Iraqi citizens to Iraq in 1995 if they ever made a transfer at Pearson intl. even if they had committed no crime?
Originally posted by lord of the mark
oh, and we shouldnt have nabbed that Syrian canadian fellow who was passing through NY - whatever intell they may have gotten is certainly not worth the hubbub this has created with the Canadians, whose help we need on many other things.
How about you simply ****ing deported him to CANADA instead of ****ing SYRIA, somewhere he hadn't been in decades and which would almost certainly not treat him properly.
If you had the choice, deporting him to a country which uses torture at the drop of a hat was just plain ****ing wrong.
Yeah. Too bad the **** your government's been doing for the last 3 years has all too often sounded like bad fiction instead of the actions of a constitutional democracy.
Originally posted by Ramo
I write "Blackat is being as ass" because it's assholish behavior to assume that just because someone criticizes Bush's torture by proxy, he supports Syrian torture. Just making that clear. It's bad manners, and it pisses people off - hence the comment. You're just trying to change the subject because Bush's pro-torture policies are being criticized. That's quite clear.
I have not for a moment said that Syrian torture in any way are aceptable. I have even clearly stated that both Denmark and US has done wrong in extradiction cases, but that still doesn't change my primary claim - this thread isn't about the victims - it is Bushbashing.
As for exposing Syrian torture, it's already exposed. Everyone knows. Everyone doesn't like it. "Exposing" Syrian torture is along the lines of "exposing" the Holocaust. I'm sure that a thread only about Syrian torture wouldn't have very much discussion, just a bunch of people agreeing.
Please read my response to Imran.
You are threadjacking, this thread is about a specific set of policies outlined in the article. As I said, you can make another thread only about Syrian torture, or sanctimonious whining, or whatever you want. I'm not opposed to that in any way. I just don't want said sanctimonious whining to clutter my thread.
I would have expected you as the first to make such threads if you were sincere, but you haven't. You are using this as a part of your Bushhate and totally ignoring the pains that people has to suffer in countries as Syria.
I am not threadjacking anything, because I don't deny that failures has been made, but I will not ignore whom are really to be blamed witch you totaly ignore - actually, it is you that diminishes "holocaust" (strange - I haven't claimed that holocaust didn't happend, which i am certan has - yet state that i think otherwise). IU think that it is nasty of you.
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
I'm just about sick of people talking about Bushbashing. Everytime some news comes out about Bush to put him in an even worse light there is sure to be someone to claim that people do nothing but Bushbash. What a bunch of crap?
I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
Originally posted by Kidicious
I'm just about sick of people talking about Bushbashing. Everytime some news comes out about Bush to put him in an even worse light there is sure to be someone to claim that people do nothing but Bushbash. What a bunch of crap?
Well, I'm just as sick as you of the fact that some people think that Bush is a idiot because he is a repub and isn't perfect in english.
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
I would have expected you as the first to make such threads if you were sincere, but you haven't. You are using this as a part of your Bushhate and totally ignoring the pains that people has to suffer in countries as Syria.
I would have expected you as the first to make such threads if you were sincere, but you haven't. You are using this as a part of your Bushhate and totally ignoring the pains that people has to suffer in countries as Syria.
This is idiotic.
Yet true. Ramo rarely does anything without the theme.
Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Is that post supposed to make some sort of sense?
Whatever chief. The records on repeat today. Someone just bothered to call Ramo out. It's up to him to defend his point of view. Oh yeah, it's also up to him to try and be civil about it, which he hasn't.
I'm glad to see that the strongest defense of the US government's actions in the Arar case presented so far in this thread is: "the US isn't as bad as SYRIA"
Whatever chief. The records on repeat today. Someone just bothered to call Ramo out. It's up to him to defend his point of view. Oh yeah, it's also up to him to try and be civil about it, which he hasn't.
Alright, I said my piece.
I simply don't understand what you were trying to say, dude.
Kid : Have you ever wondered why you are sometimes ignored ?
Anyway, the theme is torture; is US always to blame and especially are Bush the real devil ?
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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