Yeah, we already have been over alot of this.
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Yes, I missed him too"Son españoles... los que no pueden ser otra cosa" (Cánovas del Castillo)
"España es un problema, Europa su solución" (Ortega y Gasset)
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"Déjate llevar por la complejidad y cabalga sobre ella" - Niessuh, sabio cÃvico
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WV, how do you think the Vandals got from Central Europe into North Africa?
HINT: They did not book a flight into Fez from Frankfort.
Tu b**dejo, indeed.Last edited by Jacobite1688; June 3, 2002, 23:47.
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In 409 germanic tribes entered in Iberia, Suevos in Atlantic coast, Alanos in Lusitania and Cartaginensis, Vandals in Baetica and visigoths in Mediterranean coasts of France and Italy.
The last ones tried to enter in Tarraconensis in 415 but they were expelled. Their leader, Ataulfo died in Barcelona in this campaign, so Valia was crowned as Visigoth leader. This made a pact with Rome where Visigoths would obtain 7 cities in Narbonensis (Septimania) if expelled Vandals, Alanos and Suevos from Hispania. Visigoths made a triunfal campaign where defeated other Germanic tribes. Vandals who had named Baetica as Vandalusia went througt Gibraltar straight (se dice asi?) in 429 where conquested North African roman provinces, supporting them until Byzatine arrived.
So al-Andalus came from a Germanic name as Waku said
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I believe that on the grave of our first Christian prince there is a claim that he was prince of Vandals too (it was proven that it was
later thing, but who cares). So, Poland has the right to all formerly Vandal possesities. I know, Sweden was "kingdom of Swedes, Goths and Vandals" too, but after dethronising the righteous part of Vasa dinasty (that still ruled in our state), I believe we got all the rights again. Spaniards out!
(Sorry! Sorry!)"I realise I hold the key to freedom,
I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
Middle East!
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