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We sentence quite a few minors to death.
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That's not what you said though.Originally posted by chegitz guevara
We sentence quite a few minors to death.
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Evil Yankee conspiracy...Btw..What the heck is a scotus ruling?
Actually, since I'm not an evil yankee, I'll help you out.
It's an abbreviation for Supreme Court of the United States.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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That also happens to be why certain conservative posters on this forum would rather smokescreen the issue by pouring scorn and attempting to undermine this thread by dodging the issue...Originally posted by chegitz guevara
It also bans the execution of minors. That's why the US won't sign it.
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besides, i highly doubt that nkorea tends to stick to that document, even though you imply that they are signatories...B♭3Comment
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The issue was dealt with by MtG on the first page with this choice quote: And if an international treaty or convention is signed by a bunch of ****hole countries that don't even pretend to abide by it's requirements, it's already a mockery. We just don't legitimize that mockery by endorsing it.Originally posted by MOBIUS
That also happens to be why certain conservative posters on this forum would rather smokescreen the issue by pouring scorn and attempting to undermine this thread by dodging the issue...
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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See there I was thinking we were talking about the US...Originally posted by Q Cubed
besides, i highly doubt that nkorea tends to stick to that document, even though you imply that they are signatories...
Why is it that people think they can justify the wrongs of one nation by pointing to the wrongs of another nation?
I suppose we should be thankful that the US openly admits to abusing the rights of children by placing them on death row and guantanamo bay instead of abusing them behind closed doors?
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i'm saying that the treaty, for all its pure intentions, is worth squat.
the us is one of the better countries when it comes to treating its offspring with respect.
granted, it could do a lot better, but the us certainly doesn't need to sign a treaty that merely reinforces a lot of what it is already doing, much less put its name alongside those of other, more hypocritical nations...B♭3Comment
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It doesn't work like thatOriginally posted by DinoDoc
The issue was dealt with by MtG on the first page with this choice quote: And if an international treaty or convention is signed by a bunch of ****hole countries that don't even pretend to abide by it's requirements, it's already a mockery. We just don't legitimize that mockery by endorsing it.
Part of the reason such '****hole' countries are allowed to get away with abusing children's rights is the fact that the UN can't very well go after them when the so called 'land of the free', champion of democracy, most powerful country in the world etc is freely abusing them by executing juvenile offenders.
As the most powerful country in a supposedly civilised world the US should be setting the right example for these tinpot dictatorships, as opposed to this unfortunate emulation that is actually occuring...
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Oh right, it's not OK for other nations to copy the US by developing WoMD, but it is OK for them to copy the US by murdering their children.Originally posted by Q Cubed
i'm saying that the treaty, for all its pure intentions, is worth squat.
the us is one of the better countries when it comes to treating its offspring with respect.
granted, it could do a lot better, but the us certainly doesn't need to sign a treaty that merely reinforces a lot of what it is already doing, much less put its name alongside those of other, more hypocritical nations...
Amongst other things.Comment
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Yes, I'm quite sure that the Sudan, as an example, is just waiting for the US to sign on to the convention before cracking down on thier slave trade that deals with both children and adults.Originally posted by MOBIUS
As the most powerful country in a supposedly civilised world the US should be setting the right example for these tinpot dictatorships,
You should only wish they were emulating us when it comes to the treatment of children. It would lead to a marked improvement in thier treatment.as opposed to this unfortunate emulation that is actually occuring...
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Oh right, it's not OK for other nations to copy the US by developing WoMD, but it is OK for them to copy the US by murdering their children.
i never said that the us should be copied, or be taken as a paragon of righteousness.
besides, how many of those tinpot countries do you think really are trying to emulate the us? when the develop wmd, it's not to be just like the us, but to gain the upper hand against its local neighbors.B♭3Comment
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Name/Date of Execution/Place of Execution/Race/Age at Crime/Age at ExecutionOriginally posted by MichaeltheGreat
Name me some children we've executed and why.
Charles Rumbaugh 9/11/85 Texas White 17 28
J. Terry Roach 1/10/86 South Carolina White 17 25
Jay Pinkerton 5/15/86 Texas White 17 24
Dalton Prejean 5/18/90 Louisiana Black 17 30
Johnny Garrett 2/11/92 Texas White 17 28
Curtis Harris 7/1/93 Texas Black 17 31
Frederick Lashley 7/28/93 Missouri Black 17 29
Ruben Cantu 8/24/93 Texas Latino 17 26
Chris Burger 12/7/93 Georgia White 17 33
Joseph Cannon 4/22/98 Texas White 17 38
Robert Carter 5/18/98 Texas Black 17 34
Dwayne Allen Wright 10/14/98 Virginia Black 17 24
Sean Sellers 2/4/99 Oklahoma White 16 29
Douglas Christopher Thomas 1/10/00 Virginia White 17 26
Steven Roach 1/13/00 Virginia White 17 23
Glen McGinnis 1/25/00 Texas Black 17 27
Shaka Sankofa (Gary Graham) 6/22/00 Texas Black 17 36
Gerald Mitchell 10/22/01 Texas Black 17 33
Napoleon Beazley 5/28/02 Texas Black 17 25
T.J. Jones 8/8/02 Texas Black 17 25
Toronto Patterson 8/28/02 Texas Black 17 24
Scott Allen Hain 4/3/03 Oklahoma White 17 32
What is even more shocking is that many of these children spent over half their lives on death row!
The last execution on the list was only last month!!!
Or an average of just under three children killed per year in the last five years!!!
They are knowing accomplices to these abusive labour practices and are there precisely to take advantage of them and indirectly promote them.As far as who benefits from child labor, I'm no fan of multinational corporations who abuse third world labor, but they didn't create the abusive labor practices, they just moved to where they exist. And where are your clothes made?
And no, when I become aware of the practices of certain companies such as Gap and Nike I boycott them!
Just so you know, the Levi's I'm wearing are made in New Zealand and my V-Neck Sweater is made in Croatia...
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That's odd. None of those you listed were children. What was your point again?
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mobius, most of them were children for 1 or 2 years after imprisonment. they were executed as adults.B♭3Comment
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