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  • #46
    --"I refuse to believe that I can cease to be."

    And religious people call atheists and agnostics arrogant

    mono no aware.

    --"Atheists can't grasp the concept of souls."

    Not agreeing with the concept isn't the same as not grasping it.

    --"I look forward to eternal life."

    Which is a position I've never understood. Eternal life would be incredibly boring. That's why I used that last tagline.

    I should probably add that I was brought up in quite a religious family. Spent a couple years in a parochial school, spent many many years in church and Sunday School. Doesn't mean I swallow that nonsense, or reject it out of ignorance.

    Wraith
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    • #47
      Wraith - tain't braggin if it's true! I'm too good to not 'be'! And for the record I've never called agnostics arrogant. Cautious, yes, but I consider that to be a compliment.

      I don't look forward to eternal life, really I'm enjoying it right now. I sincerely believe that my soul has always existed, and will always exist. I'm not bored so far.
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      • #48
        After the body has died, the soul survives and is judged by the angels. The wicked are condemned to spend eternity in hell in seperation from God. The just are saved by God and spend eternity of heaven.
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        • #49
          "Heaven - heaven is a place... where nothing - nothing ever happens"
          -Talking Heads
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          • #50
            I refuse to believe that I can cease to be. I just find it impossible. My body has an expiration date - I do not.

            Ugh. You are your body and your body is you.

            This reminds me of the bull in Feet of Clay who thought that there were two of him because his eyes were on the opposite sides of his head.

            I am an Atheist, but I do beleive in an afterlife. The evidence for the existance of ghosts is very good. I think that the electrical signals in your nervous system have to go somewhere, they cant just dissappear, that violates the conservation of mass and energy.

            Sounds fair. How does "they go into worms" strike you?

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            • #51
              The MATTER goes into the worms remember that our nervous system runs by electric impulses and my hypothesis is that the impulses remain as a unique "tune" of wavelenths as the electromagnetic radiation leaves the body.

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              • #52
                Poor analogy, St. Leo. And for that matter, I've read feet of clay.

                As Burroughs said: "Time to look beyond this rundown radioactive cop-ridden planet".
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                • #53
                  --"And for the record I've never called agnostics arrogant."

                  Well, I did smiley it. It was mostly a joke.

                  Still, I have seen that sort of commentary from others.

                  --"The wicked are condemned to spend eternity in hell in seperation from God."

                  I need to look up that story about the proof about whether hell is exothermic or endothermic. Thanks for the reminder.

                  Wraith
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                  • #54
                    I believe that at death, one simply ceases to exist... its really a suck ass thought, and i fear death because of it. I never want to die, because i odnt want to not exist ( ). I wanna live! Too bad im all but convinced on the non-existance of an afterlife, and that I, like all life, will merely cease to exist, hopefully fullfilling my point to life (reproduction and goodness willing, lots of it ) before my end comes...
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                    • #55
                      Which is a position I've never understood. Eternal life would be incredibly boring. That's why I used that last tagline.
                      Maybe after the first milennium or so. Then I might get bored. But I will still be up a milennium more than otherwise.
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                      • #56
                        Energy cannot be destroyed. It can, however, be reshaped ...

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Lorizael
                          Considering that none of us have died and been resurrected, we cannot really have this argument. There are those that have faith based on their particular religious and spiritual beliefs, and there are those that don't really understand faith, and so will not attempt to make judgments on that which we cannot possibly know.

                          I am the latter. There are too many religions out there and not enough evidence in favor of any of them for me to put my faith in one. So instead I say that because I have found no evidence that there is an afterlife, I do not think that one exists. But I cannot know until I die.


                          Sloww - do you think that I can't grasp the concept of the soul because I dion't believe that I personally can make a judgement on what will happen because there is no way I can possibly know? Was that remark towards athiests, agnostics or both?

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